Hagler vs Tony Ayala Jr.

Hearns fought them all. All of them. Hearns had sharp fast hands and could punch and box at the 154 pound class. Tony Ayala would not have wanted this fight. Ayala couldn't even beat Campas later, and I know people say he was older, but he did not have much wear and tear on him. He should have been able to beat Campas. The quality of opposition for Ayala does not really prove anything about him fighting the greats like Hagler and Hearns and Duran and Leonard and Benitez. Just many steps above. As it is, Tony will never be thought of as even a good fighter.

 

Marvin would have kayoed the myth that is Tony Ayala Jr. in three rounds.

 

Hagler will show Tony Ayala how to properly **** somebody. This would be very painful for El Torito as he gets beaten down badly.

 

Actually he never beat guys in those guys class, but he did beat a couple top 10 guys like Carlos Herrera,And Robbie Epps who was coming off a big win over top contender Dwight Davison and Ayala took him out in 1 round. Also kod former contender and title challenger Steve Gregory. Mario Maldanado was a very tough fringe contender.

Ok i think Tony was better than many of you think. Im not gonna put him on the pedestal some of the others did,but Ayala could really fight and for any of you that werent around back then Ayala was truly a force to be reckoned with and had an indimitating presence about him like Tyson.

With that being said Hagler would probably have to much experience for him but dont think for a minute hed back down to Hagler. Hagler would truly have to lay alot of hurt on Tony to discourage him. I think this would be a FOTY type and i think the momentum would switch back and forth. Hagler might drop Tony in the early rounds,but that would just **** of Tony more and thats when this fight would get brutal. Going into the 8th round this fight would be pretty even,but after that Haglers experience starts to take over and he would do better by countering Tony and occasionly taking it to him around the 11th Hagler explodes on a Faded Ayala and stops him.


I know these are 2 diffrent fighters with diffrent styles but think Tito and Vargas for a moment and you might get an idea how this fight would turn out, except that Ayala had a better chin than Vargas.

 

That Campas fight comparison is sad:-( I dont care what fighter you want to name,no one could have done 20 years in prison and come out the same fighter you were before.:nono If anything Ayala fought pretty well for being 40 and out the ring for 20 years. He showed flashes of what could have been. Forget the Bonsante fight he was already washed up compared to even the Campas fight.

 

I hope this goes throught this im trying to post the Epps and Ayala fight.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYuLR86vs[/ame]

 

At last someone with objectivity! :good

Yes, a prime Hagler would've probably won by late KO in a very brutal war, whereas post-Hearns Hagler would've lost.

 

[ame]http://www.Youtube.Com/watch?v=GYuLR86VS[/ame]

 

Why not just stop ****in around and say the truth. If he hadn't gone to jail, he probably would have ko'd Tyson in 2 in 1987 and began a 13 year reign as heavyweight champion. After he retired, he would have gone to Afghanistan at the behest of the State Department and singlehandedly beaten the taliban and terrorists and intimidated Binlandin into retiring. His record clearly shows him capable of all these feats and when he was seriously wobbled when knocked down by Maldanado means nothing. If you can beat Robbie Epps and Mike Baker and Ferocious Steve Gregory, you can beat anyone. Next to John Ruiz, he is the most underrated and misunderstood fighter in history. He was no ******, he was just aggressively friendly.

 

Ayala had great potential but never fought someone of Haglers calibre. He'd be in over his head and take terrible punishment. He'd also likely get the heart beat out of him, sending him on a progressive decline. Ayala liked to **** women, this time he gets raped: Hagler by brutal tko in 7.

 

Very well put.........................

 

To be fair. Ayala was a good prospect in the early 1980's. He would have probably beaten Davey Moore, and then he might have been matched with either Roberto Duran or Wilfred Benitez and defended against them, or maybe fought a unification with Hearns, - I think those three guys would have beaten him, but had he avoided the legends he could have met up with guys like Minchillo and Drayton and he could have beaten them and had a decent run. But it is hard to tell now how good Ayala really was, but he did look like a powerful fighter and exciting.

 

i just opened this in disbelief that arguably the greatest ever middleweight is put up against an untested prospect

but what joy when in the first few replies Rooster gets owned again!i feel sorry for him,i really do....

Hagler by early T/KO.... inside 6, in an exciting enough/all action fight while it lasted

 

What about his mentality - a bully/******, how does the bully react when he cant hurt his opponent? How does he react when he cant hit his opponent? What about when he starts to get his own treatment back but worse? how does he react against much faster opponents who can outbox him?