Hall of Fame Case for Fernando Vargas

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  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is this a joke ?

    Based on what ?
     
  2. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Fernando Vargas, 26-5, former IBF and WBA 154 titlist
    Notable fights:
    W RTD7 Luis Ramon Campas - won Campas' IBF 154
    W TKO11 Raul Marquez - IBF 154 defense
    W MD12 Winky Wright - IBF 154 defense
    W UD12 Ike Quartey - IBF 154 defense
    L TKO12 Felix Trinidad
    W KO7 Jose Flores - won vacant WBA 154
    L TKO11 Oscar de la Hoya
    W UD10 Javier Castillejo
    L TKO10 Shane Mosley I
    L TKO6 Shane Mosley II
    L MD12 Ricardo Mayorga
     
  4. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    If the likes of Naz for example haven't been inducted, then Vargas should be nowhere near it.
     
  5. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He beat Ike Quartey and Winky wright.
     
  6. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    very good wins, but not enough. and his longevity wasnt good.
     
  7. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Is he accomplished enough :think


    I mean Gatti s in and he was t as accomplished ..
     
  8. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    who did Nas beat? That bum never beat a great fighter in overrated career. The only time he met one, he got ***** slapped and retired. Its an insult compare him to a warrior like Vegas who never shied away from the best. Vegas fought them all. Winky Wright, Shane Mosley, Oscar Dela Hoya, Ike Quartey, Javier Castillejo.

    Vegas beat Ike Quartey and Winky Wright ( a first ballot hall of famer).
     
  9. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know but from what I read his feater weight title defenses is what would,get him there no ?
     
  10. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Im not saying he should get in, Im just arguing against his claim that Vegas always crumbled against the elite. Those are very good wins considering how young Vegas was when he beat those men. Vegas also has a win against Javier Castillejo who KO'd Felix Sturm shortly after Vegas undercarded him.

    Vegas was warrior.
     
  11. Imperial1

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    I completely forgot about the Castillejo fight ...
     
  12. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Number of title defense does not mean **** if its against scrubs. Vegas could have compiled similar defenses had he taken Nas's route. But no, Vegas sought and fought the best

    Had Nas fought Pac, Marquez, and Barrera which is an equivalent of Dela Hoya, Mosley, and Trinidad, I doubt we will be having this conversation now.

    Vegas fought the very best. When you fight the very best you're gonna have some loses. Thats just the nature of the game.

    Not only did Vegas fight so many great fighter, he fought them at their primes. Nas fought none
     
  13. Imperial1

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    Here are some of Hamed 's accomplishments :



    Turned professional as an 18-year old Jr. Bantamweight, Hamed won his first five—and 17 of his first 19—by knockout. Along the way, he picked up various smaller titles at Bantamweight and Jr. Featherweight. Making his first start at Featherweight, Hamed captured the WBO crown from Steve Robinson in September 1995 in front of a packed pro-Robinson crowd in Cardiff. Hamed would defend four times, all by knockout, before engaging in his first unification bout in February 1997. Matched with American Tom Johnson in London, Hamed won almost every round before stopping Johnson in eight to add the IBF title to his mantle.

    Hamed defended his unified crown twice, both by knockout. The second of those aired in the US on broadcast network ABC. Vacating the IBF title, Hamed made two more knockout WBO defenses in 1997, including his US debut. He ended the year with five knockouts in five starts.

    His first start of 1998 was supposed to be a unification fight with then-reigning WBA titlist Wilfredo Vazquez of Puerto Rico. Vazquez was forced to give up the title for pursuing the Hamed fight.

    There was still history at hand.

    Tracing to Eusebio Pedroza’s recognition by Ring Magazine as the genuine champion of the division after the death of Salvador Sanchez, Vazquez entered the ring in April 1998 the lineal Featherweight king. Hamed dropped him three times en route to a seventh round stoppage. Two defenses followed before Hamed sought unification again, defeating Mexico’s Cesar Soto for the WBC belt via decision in October 1999. Hamed would immediately vacate the WBC crown and defend the WBO belt two final times before opting to leave that belt behind as well. In his final defense of history’s World Featherweight crown, Hamed lost a decision to the great Marco Antonio Barrera.

    Hamed would fight only once more. Despite years of various comeback rumors, Hamed never returned to the ring.

    Among outside the ring honors, Hamed was named the:
    • #46 Ring Magazine Top 100 Punchers of All Time: 2003
    • #20 All Time Featherweight by ***********: 2009
     
  14. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Typical Floydette reply you have no response lol You know what I say it true Have a nice day yourself try to learn a little about boxing too OK:hi:
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Are you sure youre not a snotty nosed kid?? you act like one