Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

Here's from Lufcrazy's heavyweight thread a year ago.

 

It's also worth referencing Lufcrazy's p4p thread from a year ago.

 

Yeah I had a go at it for a while but hhascup always put me to shame coz he had the monthlys as well.

good to see my work appreciated though, probably a few errors in there coz it's quite tedious work.

 

Thanks! If you feel up to it would it be possible to check out:

Lupe Pintor
Gaby & Orlando
Happy Lora
just for a Chandler comparrison for me???

Also how about Prince Naseem

 

Awesome work Luf :good

Joe Louis at 50-3 is absaloutley outstanding considering he only had the 68 fights. Also when you compare Jack Johnson's record to fellow black fighters of the time like Langford, Jeannette and McVea, he must be applauded. His record is pretty damn consistent for his time

Anyone willing to do this for Kid Gavillan would be appreciated

 

Some modern little men (the numbers being their record against 'The Ring' top 10 and champions, as well as fellow Hall of Famers).

Carbajal 6-3

Gonzales (Humberto) 2-1

Galaxy 3-0

Harada 7-5

 

Oh my god!

Khaosai's dominance is frightening!

 

nice work everyone.

 

SUGAR RAY ROBINSON's TOP 10 RATED OPPONENTS

Sugar Ray Robinson first appears in The Ring ratings on March 11, 1941. He debuts at No. 7 in the lightweight division.

1941: Sammy Angott (No. 1 LW) (@135)
1941: Maxie Shapiro (No. 9 LW) (@135)
1941: Fritzie Zivic (No. 1 WW)
-- Robinson debuts at No. 1 in the welterwight ratings after win over Zivic.
1942: Fritzie Zivic (No. 3 WW)
1942: Norman Rubio (No. 9 WW)
1942: Marty Servo (No. 7 WW)
1942: Sammy Angott (World LW Champ) (@ 147)
1942: Tony Motisi (No. 9 WW)
1942: Jake LaMotta (No. 10 MW)
1942: Izzy Janazzo (No. 9 WW)
1942: Izzy Janazzo (No. 9 WW)
1943: Jake La Motta (No. 6 MW) - LOSS
1943: Jackie Wilson (No. 2 WW)
1943: Jake La Motta (No. 1 MW)
1943: Henry Armstrong (No. 2 WW)
1944: Vic Dellicurti (No. 10 MW)
1945: Tommy Bell (No. 6 WW)
1945: Jake LaMotta (No. 3 MW)
1945: Jose Basora (No. 6 MW) - DRAW
1945: Jimmy McDaniels (No. 6 WW)
1945: Jake LaMotta (No. 1 MW)
1946: Sammy Angott (No. 6 WW)
1946: Joe Curcio (No. 9 WW)
1946: Tommy Bell (No. 2 WW)
-- Wins vacant Welterweight title.
1947: Georgie Abrams (No. 3 MW)
1947: Jimmy Doyle (No. 6 WW)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1948: Bernard Docusen (No. 1 WW)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1948: Kid Gavilan (No. 1 WW)
1949: Kid Gavilan (No. 1 WW)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1949: Steve Belloise (No. 2 MW)
-- Robinson debuts at No. 1 at middleweight after win over Belloise. He still continues to hold the welterweight championship.
1950: George Costner (No. 2 WW)
1950: Robert Villemain (No. 2 MW)
1950: Charley Fusari (No. 5 WW)
-- Defends Welterweight title.
1950: Robert Villemain (No. 4 MW)
1951: Jake LaMotta (World MW Champion)
-- Wins Middleweight title
-- Robinson vacates welterweight title after win over LaMotta.
1951: Randy Turpin (No. 1 MW) - LOSS
-- Loses Middleweight title
1951: Randy Turpin (World MW Champion)
-- Wins Middleweight title
1952: Carl "Bobo" Olson (No. 5 MW)
-- Defends Middleweight title
1952: Rocky Graziano (No. 9 MW)
-- Defends Middleweight title
1952: Joey Maxim (World LHW Champion) - LOSS
-- Robinson retires for 30 months after loss to Maxim.
1955: Rocky Castellani (No. 2 MW)
1955: Carl "Bobo" Olson (World MW Champion)
-- Wins Middleweight title
1956: Carl "Bobo" Olson (No. 1 MW)
-- Defends Middleweight title
1957: Gene Fullmer (No. 1 MW) - LOSS
-- Loses Middleweight title
1957: Gene Fullmer (World MW Champion)
-- Wins Middleweight title
1957: Carmen Basilio (World WW Champion) (@160)
-- Loses Middleweight title
1958: Carmen Basilio (World MW Champion)
-- Wins Middleweight title
1959: No fights vs. top contenders
1960: Paul Pender (No. 8 MW) - LOSS
-- Loses Middleweight title
1960: Paul Pender (World MW Champion) - LOSS
1960: Gene Fullmer (No. 1 MW) - DRAW (Not really)
1961: Gene Fullmer (No. 1 MW) - LOSS
1961: Denny Moyer (No. 9 MW)
1962: Denny Moyer (No. 9 MW) - LOSS
1962: Terry Downes (No. 3 MW) - LOSS
1963: Ralph Dupas (No. 3 WW) (@160)
1963: Joey Giardello (No. 3 MW) - LOSS
1964: No fights vs. top 10 contenders
1965: Stan Harrington (No. 9 MW) - LOSS
1965: Joey Archer (No. 4 MW) - LOSS
-- Robinson retires after loss to Archer.

 

HENRY ARMSTRONG's TOP 10 RATED OPPONENTS

1934: Baby Arizmendi (No. 1 FW) - LOSS
-- Despite loss, Armstrong debuts in The Ring ratings dated November 17 At No. 8 Featherweight.
1934: Joe Conde (No. 6 FW)
1935: Baby Arizmendi (No. 1 FW) - LOSS
1935: Midget Wolgast (No. 5 FW)
-- Frankie Covelli was not rated in top 10 at time of fight with Armstrong, but rated shortly before and again a few months after fight).
1936: Baby Arizmendi (No. 2 FW)
1936: Juan Zurita (No. 9 FW)
1936: Mike Belloise (No. 2 FW)
1936: Tony Chavez (No. 7 FW) - LOSS (DQ)
1937: Tony Chavez (No. 5 FW)
1937: Mike Belloise (No. 2 FW)
1937: Aldo Spoldi (No. 7 LW)
1937: Pete DeGrasse (No. 10 LW)
-- Armstrong debuts at No. 2 in Lightweight Ratings dated July 10.
1937: Petey Sarron (World FW Champion)
1937: Billy Beauhuld (No. 2 LW)
1937: Tony Chavez (No. 6 FW)
1938: Everett Rightmire (No. 3 FW)
1938: Barney Ross (World WW Champion)
1938: Lou Ambers (World LW Champion)
1938: Ceferino Garcia (No. 1 WW)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1939: Baby Arizmendi (No. 4 LW) (both @135)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1939: Davey Day (No. 3 LW) (both @135)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1939: Ernie Roderick (No. 2 WW)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1939: Lou Ambers (No. 1 LW) - LOSS
-- Loses Lightweight title
-- Pedro Montanez (HOF) enters Ratings after fight with Armstrong
1940: Ceferino Garcia (No. 1 MW) - DRAW (Robbery)
1940: Paul Junior (No. 7 LW)
-- Defends Welterweight title
1940: Lew Jenkins (World LW Champion) [non-title fight]
1940: Fritzie Zivic (No. 3 WW) - LOSS
-- Loses Welterweight Title
1941: Fritzie Zivic (World WW Champion) - LOSS
-- Armstrong exits Ring ratings after announcing retirement.
1942: Armstrong re-enters Ring ratings 13 August, Welterweight division)
1942: Juan Zurita (No. 4 LW)
1942: Fritzie Zivic (No. 2 WW)
1943: Willie Joyce (No. 5 LW) - LOSS
1943: Beau Jack (No. 1 LW) - LOSS
1943: Sammy Angott (No. 2 LW)
1943: Willie Joyce (No. 5 LW)
1943: Jimmy Garrison (No. 7 WW)
1943: Sugar Ray Robinson (No. 1 WW) - LOSS
1944: Ralph Zanelli (No. 5 WW)
1944: Ralph Zanelli (No. 9 WW
1944: Willie Joyce (No. 6 LW) - LOSS
1944: John Thomas (No. 8 LW) - LOSS
1944: Willie Joyce (No. 9 LW)
1945: Chester Slider (No. 7 WW) - LOSS

 

Chang loses out here as light fly was bracketed with fly for years so a lot of guys that would've been top ten @ 108 did not make top ten for the double division.

 

CHARLEY BURLEY's TOP 10 RATED OPPONENTS

1938: Fritzie Zivic (No. 9 WW)
-- Burley debuts at No. 9 in Ring's Welterweight ratings dated July 10.
1939: Jimmy Leto (No. 10 WW) - LOSS
1939: Fritzie Zivic (No. 1 WW)
1939: Jimmy Leto (No. 3 WW)
1940:
-- Burley exits welterweight ratings dated March 11.
-- Burley enters at No. 10 in middleweight ratings dated May 12.
-- Burley exits middleweight ratings dated June 12.
-- Burley re-enters welterweight ratings dated July 12.
1940: Georgie Abrams (No. 6 MW) - DRAW
1940: Jimmy Bivins (No. 9 MW) - LOSS
1941: Antonio Fernandez (No. 8 MW)
1942: Shorty Hogue (No. 7 MW)
1942: Holman Williams (No. 6 WW)
1942: Ezzard Charles (No. 3 MW) - LOSS
1942: Holman Williams (No. 6 MW)
1942: Ezzard Charles (No. 3 MW)- LOSS
1942: Holman Williams (No. 9 MW)
-- Burley re-enters middlewight ratings dated August 13.
-- Burley exits middleweight ratings dated November 10, after loss to Williams (not rated), who re-enters.
1943:
-- Burley re-enters middleweight ratings dated January 12.
1943: Jack Chase (No. 8 MW)
1943: Cocoa Kid (No. 4 WW) - DRAW
1943: Holman Williams (No. 5 MW) - No Contest
1944: No rated opponents.
1945: Joe Carter (No. 3 MW)
1945: Holman Williams (No. 1 MW) - LOSS
1945: Oakland Billy Smith (No. 9 LHW)
1946: Oakland Billy Smith (No. 3 LHW)
1946: Bert Lytell (No. 6 MW)
1947: Bert Lytell (No. 5 MW) - LOSS
1948: Charley "Doc" Williams (No. 5 LHW) - LOSS