Hall of Famers vs Top 10 Contenders

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  1. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    boxing register?
     
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  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Listons is wrong he beat more than 8
     
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  3. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For ronny yes it's the register.

    These are ring ratings, at the time when they fought. I've got Liston beating Folley, Machen, Patterson x2, Marshall, Bethea, DeJohn,and Roy Harris. Who else?
     
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  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Henry Clark. Number 9 RING
    Cleveland Willisms Number 10 NBA for 1960 fight

    Those are definites
     
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  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes that is it; with three defeats (Ali x2) and Marshall. It should also be noted that when Marty and Sonny got it on for the third time, Marshall was not rated.
     
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  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    No

    Henry Clark rated 9th by RING when he fought Liston

    Also Williams rated tenth by NBA when he fought Liston the second time
     
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  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes; Boxing Register does not use NBA ratings and it suggests Clark was not a top 10 fighter (at the time).
     
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  8. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We went by ring ratings because they were more readily available.

    Clark was probably rated.
     
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  9. SuzieQ49

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  10. TBooze

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  11. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    TBOOZE:
    I can believe that, Clark was ranked No.5 6/24/68 by WBA, No. 9 Ring, whom did Boxing Register CONCLUDE THEIR RATINGS BY?
     
    ronnyrains, Jun 29, 2015
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  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    What's the deal with Gavilan's record?
     
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  14. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gavilan had a bizarre career. Senya would be the guy to ask about him but I think he was the opposite of mobbed up; Gavilan almost never won his close calls.

    It's also possible that people simply didn't like his style. Watch his fight with Billy Graham- in the era that was considered a huge robbery but every modern viewer I've seen has Gavilan winning it clear.
     
    LittleRed, Oct 2, 2015
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  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Thanks! I'll add the Graham fight to my queue.
     
    mrkoolkevin, Oct 2, 2015
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