Hamed v the following (at feather, prime 4 prime):

Morales is one of my favourite all time fighters, but alot of his prime was at SBW, and Hamed was alot stronger, and a bigger puncher. Morales was badly rocked and hurt by Barrera and Hamed hits alot harder. Morales was often open (think McCullough).
Morales avoided Hamed at all costs. I think it was because Hamed beats him. I hate writing it, but think it would have happend. Remember Hamed when prime was very good.

 

He'd definitely lose to Mayweather and JMM - horrible style matchups

Depends when for Morales I guess. When Morales was at his best at feather, he would have outboxed Hamed in a tough fight. I don't think his style lends itself as well to beating Hamed as did Barrera's though.

It's hard to remember Pacquiao back when he was just a featherweight at this point, but people seem to forget that back then he was a one-handed fighter who was mostly just aggressive but not that much of a boxer. A lot of parallels between Pac at 126 and Juanma, and I would slightly favor Hamed to beat either one - pretty much toss up fights.

Hamed would be Gamboa's nightmare. I can't think of a worse possible matchup for Gamboa than someone who can keep up with his speed, his awkward and has power in both hands. Hamed by mid-rounds KO.

Even prime John was probably a bit too passive for Hamed, and I suspect Hamed would knock him out late.

Rafa and Izzy are both too small. They'd get blasted out of there, as much as I love them.

 

Mayweather - hard to tell as he never thought at FW, but at a catchweight I'd take a May UD

Pac - would be a war, but at FW I'd pick Naz. When Paq was hurt bck then he usedto throw bombs back, against a bomber like Naz, it's not smart. Naz would stop him very late or win on points. (btw, Pac was never at his prime at FW IMO so it wouldn't be the Manny we all love now fighting)

Morales- I don't think he schools Naz at all. He was much more prone to getting into a war than MAB was, and against Naz it would have been no different. Both would likely hit the floor and either could stop the other. Would slightly favour EM, but it's a 50-50 IMO and wouldn't be surprised if either KO'ed the other or either won on points.

JMM- see MAB fight.

John - gets KO'ed between 6-8

Gamboa - the Gamboa of today gets stopped before 6 (little unfair as he isn't in his prime yet)

Lopez - gets knocked the **** out brutally

R Marquez - too small, would be stopped

Vasquez - see above

I'd also like the challenge the MAB schooled Naz theory. For some reason, the official scorecards which read 116-111 and 115-112 (2x) has been written as a schooling. Losing by that margin away from home in no way shows a schooling! If it does, then Froch was schooled by Kessler ( scorecards were even wider), Froch schooled Pascal, and Joe Calzaghe schooled Kessler.

I'm not making a case for Naz in the fight, as MAB clearly won, but a schooling it was not. If you compare it to Calzaghe - Lacy, Mayweather - JMM or Froch - Abraham, it was not even nearly a schooling.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Mayweather - Never had a pro fight at 126
pacquiao - by Win SD
Morales by Win UD
JMM - by Win SD
chris john - gets stopped
y. gomboa - gets stopped
JM Lopez - gets stopped
raf marquez - too small, loss SD
i.vasquez - too small, get stooped on cuts

Rafa Marquez and Vasquez never fought at 126 in their prime.

 

Id fancy these guys over him even tho Floyd never fought at 126, he beats Naz easily at any weight, Morales beats Naz too much in the same manner that Barrera did, Naz has a punchers chance vs JMM as his chin wasnt iron like Morales & his defense wasnt as good as Floyd`s & Pac`s 126 lb reckless style could either be hell or heaven for Naz, this would be a bombs away affair, I go with Pac because he has proven his greatness in tough battles, Naz has not.

The rest of these guys would be knocked out or at least beaten by Hamed IMO, who is a bit underrated these days.

 

You say you hate writing it... but you felt the need to write it twice.... & both times you were terribly mistaken.

 

:!::vonnecunt

 

all of them?atsch

 

In terms of one-punch KO power, Hamed is one of the best in boxing history. So threads like this are a bit pointless, because you put him in with superior technical boxers, but there would always be a fair chance of him stopping them, despite their "invincible" stature and popularity. Hamed was totally unique to the sport, his style was like no one else. This makes predictions difficult, because the guys listed never fought anyone like him. There is no basis to judge how they would react to a guy like Hamed.

 

Yeah I'd probably agree with that. Naz, for me, is seriously underrated. Having watched most of his fights, the guy was explosive, quick, awkward, and could knock pretty much anyone out.

 

Mayweather - At featherweight? I'm afraid you are going beyond the realms of possibility to try and make this possible. It would have to be a 130. Mayweather was a beast at 130, he could bang, put great combinations together and was an excellent body-puncher and still smart and good defensively. Hamed gets stopped in 5 or 6 in this.

Pacquiao - Pacquiao at featherweight was very hittable, but I tend to believe that was from straighter punches, particularly the right hand. Hamed's unorthodox punching angles wouldn't present as much of a problem to a similar unorthodox fighter like Pacquiao, who is a great class of fighter and has a better power hand overall in terms of precision, accuracy and timing. Pacquiao stops him in 8.

Morales - I've always felt this was a little more risky than the Barrera fight because I don't feel Morales was quite as disciplined, and at his best vs the Barrera that fought Hamed, I feel he's a little more hittable. That said, he's got a good chin, can box or punch like Barrera, too skilled and too proven for Hamed. The greater risk to trade see's him lose an extra round than Barrera though. Morales UD 8-4.

Marquez - Again like Pacquiao, very hittable at 126 although a bit less so. But still as technically skilled offensively as he is today, great combinations, expert timing and he would counter-punch the **** out of Hamed, although it'd probably go the distance like the Barrera fight. Marquez UD8-4 Hamed.

Chris John - Good technical boxer, he wouldn't be over done for speed here either I don't think, but there's a big difference in power and I think eventually, John boxing well and cautiously will start to take big punches and fold. Hamed TKO in 10.

Yuriorkis Gamboa - Simply put, Gamboa at this point - still green and not really that smart - can not afford to get into a firefight with Hamed. His speed and power is all well and good, but against a fighter who's unorthodox, with a better chin, bigger power and speed himself and proven at a so-far higher level, he gets taken out in a brawl early. Hamed in 4.

Juan Manuel Lopez - A little more proven than Gamboa for me at this point, and more rounded in terms of his ability to be able to box, more of a boxer-punch in that sense. His right-hook and also his left-hand wouldn't have the same affect to me against a fellow southpaw, and one as unorthodox with his angles as Hamed. I think JuanMa gets over-rawed and stopped at some point in the mid-rounds as he doesn't cope with the power and angles. Hamed in 7.

Rafael Marquez - It pains me to say it because Rafa is one of my favourite fighter, but a featherweight Marquez gets knocked out. His prime was at bantamweight were he was exceptional for the standard of the modern era, but you can't just take his prime from 118 and move him up to 126. The version we've seen at 126 - and to some extent the later version at 122 - wouldn't cope with the speed, power and offensive angles. Hamed in 5.

Israel Vazquez - Okay, well the featherweight version we've seen of him recently would be stopped in 2, but I suppose we could move a 122 version of him up from his prime. Offensively, great left-hook, a lot of heart, good chin but he's far too hittable from a defensive standpoint to consistently take the power shots of Hamed. Naseem in 7.

 

I think the popular perceptions of Hamed are mostly fair. He's underrated by most Americans, but only because many are ignorant of the intricacies of the FW scene in the mid to late 90s. So they don't realise his achivements, because they don't recognise the names.

Generally, it's easy to say what Hamed did and did not achieve, what kind of fighter he was. He cleaned out the division, was the unified, lineal champ, beat 7 or 8 belt holders, half a dozen contenders and retired with only 1 points loss to a prime version of an ATG on his record. He didn't beat any great fighters, but he beat plenty of very good ones.

So Hamed should be considered a true champ (I.e not just a belt holder), and a very good fighter, but not a great one.

 

:scaredas:

Also check out his wars with Larios, Gonzalez, Hernandez...oh FFS, just get a career set.

 

Mayweather actually offered Hamed a bout at a catchweight of 128lbs. That was when Hamed came out with something along the lines of, "How much higher do you want me to go?".