Hamed vs Barrera rematch.

Great and Very Good Fighters Hamed beat:

Vasquez - 3 division champion, WBA featherweight champ – ko’d

Bungu - IBF king at 122 beating Mkkinney twice (before Barrera did), perhaps had a better resume at super bantamweight than MAB - ko'd in 4

Soto - WBC champ, top3 at 126 and beat JL Castillo - beat easily

Tom Johnson - IBF champ at feather and top2 in the world, outboxed and ko'd

Ingle - IBF champ and beat Junior Jones who beat MAB

Medina - 5 time featherweight champ in his prime, top 5 featherweight - ko'd despite Hamed suffering from Flu

McColough - ex bantamweight champ and robbed of the super bantamweight crown, he went on to go close with Morales 6 months later

Robinson - WBO champ, top3, beat a 3weight champ and made 8 defences, easily outboxed and dispatched brutally.

Kevin Kelly - still near his prime, ex-champ and a top3 fighter when Hamed ko'd him

Hamed beat all 4 belt holders, all the top featherweight contenders and a total of 10 world champions and ruled the roost for 6 years.

Hamed is a natural bantamweight that was campaigning at super bantamweight and only fought at featherweight because a title fight became available.

Hamed beat 2 fighters in 2 rounds that each went the distance with Erik Morales.

Hamed may have fought Barrera years earlier if MAB didn’t lose to Junior Jones (who went on to lose to a Hamed victim)

 

Thanks Power Puncher :good

Reiterates the point I'm making perfectly

 

Ok guys I watched every Hamed fight numerous times, I'm a big fan and I to also feel he never reached his full potential, but in saying that how does not reaching your potential automatically mean he beats Barrera, Morales and Marquez, which is what I'm constantly hearing all the time from defenders of him,

please tell when he ever showed he had the beating of any of them

 

I was being sarcastic. Thought it was pretty blatant.

 

I thought so too

 

The hungrier fighter won and if there was a rematch in this time or the time Barrera beat him, the result would be the same.

 

Nah, he finished it by retiring.

 

I think Hamed had far more natural talent than Calzaghe. Maybe if Hamed had he been focused and gone into the ring with a better game plan instead of underestimating Barrera, he could of beaten Barrera, however that is all ifs and buts, maybe Tyson beats Douglas if he is focused, in shape, he wasn't, but thats down to him, Barrera is greater because he never quit after losing to Junior Jones, also, because he, unlike Hamed, made sure he gave himself the best chance of winning their fight by staying hungry and dedicated, hence the reason when all said and done, he is a greater, if Hamed was ever to be great, he would not of fallen out of love with Boxing, he would of prepared himself sufficiently for that fight to give himself the best chance to win.

 

Hamed was everything wrong there is and has been with boxing. Over inflated ego, disrespectful to the opponent, obnoxious over rated fighter. The only time this tool had to prove himself against a top fighter he got his ass kicked and then some. Forget about him already......atsch

Today, tomorrow, Yesterday, 04/2001 the result is and would have been the same, the superior boxer won, and would win every time.

:hi:

He is one of boxings most successful illusionist, he actually made you people think he was a boxer, when he was an entertainer, and all the hipsters that were tea bagging, and cheering his in and out of ring shenanigans are bigger dipsticks than he is.

Hamed Who?
:-(

 

:thumbsup

 

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I dont think Barrera gets the credit for what he did (strategically) in the fight to make! Hamed look so bad, i mean Barrera did not just turn up and Box the way he usually does and win, he recognized that Hamed was not as effective fighting on the front taking the lead, that he often left himself open doing that, so he made him come foward, they said this was their strategy to.

To me Hamed was the stereotypical Ingle fighter, strictly a counter puncher, no fundamentals, like a jab to set up his own offense if the opponent did not go to him and let him play counter puncher, thats why later in his career he often left himself open to getting countered imo, he was knocking guys out so became more of an aggressor, where before he was more of a Boxer looking for counters, through adopting this approach it highlighted just how poor attacking Boxing was as he always left himself open to counters with his wild punches, often visiting the canvas, or touching down due to poor balance.


Look at Roy Jones, strictly a counter puncher for the most part of his career, look how terrible he looked against Montell Griffin when asked to come foward, take the lead, and set up his own attacks, he could not do it, he has no jab, no fundamentals, which became more apparent the older he got as reflexes started to leave him.

 

:huh I can't agree with your assessment of Jones-Griffin at all, nor your assessment of Roy Jones as a fighter. Jones could easily alternate between counterpunching and taking the lead, he often did so with ease. He often used elusive movement and counterpunching, but he often hunted his opponent with powershots and was aggressive as well.

In the Griffin fight, Montell was often driving Roy back, pinning him in corners or on ropes and unloading with flurries, and this did give Roy problems for a few rounds, but Roy had turned that fight around by the time of the DQ, he was up on 2 of the judges' scorecards and clearly on the cusp of a stoppage victory when the fight was waved off.

To say Roy Jones had 'no fundamentals' is ridiculous. He was jobbed out of an Olympic gold medal remember. Jones did not have an effective jab, that much is true, but that is not the same as having 'no fundamentals', a jab is only one facet of a fighter's repertoire. Roy had far greater technical abilities than Hamed and a far more well-rounded skillset. I suggest you watch some Jones fights from the 90s, because you're way off here.

 

Who specifically? when he came foward he would try and draw leads to counter.

What? Griffin was making Roy come foward most the fight from what i remember.

I take it your a Roy fan.

 

Your right on 1 thing and thats MABs gameplan, he boxed cautiously on the back foot picking his spots and stayed away from engaging.

Hamed had a jab and a good 1, Hamed as a whole was sloppy in this fight, hands down defense relying on reactions which were fading, lunging in with big shots. And his lack of dedication made him more sloppy because he slowed, he was much quicker earlier in his career, threw combinations, fought on his tip toes. Against MAB he was flat footed

As for Jones not being able to lead You might have missed him knocking his opponent out twice in the 2 fights