Hamed vs Marquez Prime for Prime

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  1. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marquez will win easily, yet he turned down a fight with Hamed and lost to Norwood... :roll:
     
  2. Raashid

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    It's probaby racially motivated. The Americans hate Arabs and wouldn't want to admit one of them was any good at anything.
     
  3. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dont think so. everyone respect hamed. just that hamed got a problem with a technician ala MAB.
     
  4. jc

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    did JMM turn Hamed down, I heard it was the other way round, Naz chose to go in a different.

    Either way, Marquez is the superior alround talent, Hamed wouldnt have anything more than a punchers chance.

    Naz loses to the three mexicans, barrera, morales and Marquez.

    Hamed vs Manny Pac would be interesting...
     
  5. Illmatic

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    no one here respects hamed...apparently a fighter can win every belt and linear and dominate a division for 4+ years and fight no one thats any good.
     
  6. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    marquez ud wrong style for naz, and for those who think naz gets underrated i pick him over pac and make him slight favourite with morales depending on whether morales boxes or brawls
     
  7. Illmatic

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    FACTS:
    Hamed at Featherweight:
    Robinson- WBO titlist w/ 7 defenses- KO8
    Medina- 5 time feather titlist- KO11
    Johnson- Linear+IBF champ w/ 11 defenses- KO8
    Kelly- Former WBC titlist w/ 47-1 record- KO4
    Vazquez- 3 division titlist, WBA titlist- KO7
    McCulough- former bantam titlist- UD12
    Ingle- Future IBF titlist- KO11
    Soto- WBC titlist- UD12
    Bungu- Superbantam IBF titlist w/13 defenses- KO4
    Barrera- ATG- UD12 LOSS

    15 title defenses, 10 championship defenses
    WBO/IBO/WBC/WBA/IBF/Linear titles
    1 loss

    JMM:
    Norwood- WBA titlist- UD12 LOSS
    Peden- contender- RTD10
    Medina- 5 time feather titlist- KO7
    Gainer- WBA titlist- TD7
    Pacquaio- Featherweight Champ- Draw
    John- WBA titlist- UD12 LOSS

    5 title defenses (including interim), 0 championship defenses
    Was never featherweight champion
    2 losses, 1 draw
    WBA/IBF/interim WBO title
     
  8. huki

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    Are you trying to say Marquez would lose? If you are, then how could you favor Hamed in this horrible stylistic matchup?
     
  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i dont think hamed is that underated. even when he was undefeated many people felt a master boxer would expose all his technical flaws which is precisely what happened. how underated can you be if a very skilled boxer can negate your effectiveness. he was flamboyant and exciting but not quite great.
     
  10. LeadLeftHook

    LeadLeftHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hamed is not coming back. People discuss him like hes still fighting.
     
  11. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not really, marquez is just bad news for hamed.
     
  12. Illmatic

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    To say that Hamed would lose just b/c JMM is a good boxer is too simplistic, especially considering how tentative he was against Norwood. If he was scared to engage with Norwood, how do you think he would fight against Hamed?

    Plus, their resumes at featherweight aren't even close.
     
  13. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    Never gonna happen. People should not compare active ones to inactives ones. Cause anything can happen.
     
  14. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Who cares about resumes? JMM has the worst style Hamed can be matched up with. I know you're a huge Hamed fan, but can you at least admit that? JMM would counter the hell out of him constantly and confuse him greatly with both his offense/defense. Since Hamed's only chance would be to land a huge punch on the chin and the chance of that happening over 12 rounds definitely isn't over 50%, there's no logical reason to favor him over Marquez.

    Steward himself said he wanted Hamed to stay away from JMM.
     
  15. Illmatic

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    I think resumes are completely relevant. If a fighter dominates all types of styles for 4+ years and the other is so, so in his biggest fights at that weight, then why would you so quickly dismiss the dominant one?

    And the chance of Hamed landing a big punch, especially at the time they were supposed to fight, is definitely more than 50.50. I see the fight playing out like the Hamed-Soto fight. JMM would be cautious to a fault and give away rounds, much like he did against Norwood, who only had a belt b/c the WBA did not want someone to have the WBA and WBO titles at the same time.