Hamed's Best Win?

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  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I think this is just fantasy really, saying Johnson was shot. The dude hadn't lost for over six years, had made ten successful defences of his title, and looked fairly good against Naz himself. To say Johnson was shot is huge exagartation.

    Just because Johnson put in one or two medicore performances prior to Hamed doesn't make him shot. If he was on a losing streak, or looked totally out of his depth against Naz, then saying he was "shot" might be credible, but I don't think any of the facts support that particular theory.
     
    El Cepillo, Jan 5, 2009
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  2. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Focusing on the negative aspects of a mans career, instead of the positive, focusing on what he didn't achive, instead of what he did...

    I just can't understand that perspective, that approach, it just seems like a really shitty way to look at things.
     
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  3. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I think there is a fairly good case to be made that at the time of both fights, Kelley was more past it than Johnson. For me, Medina is a very good win, but a fairly mediocre (by Naz's standerds) performace all the same.
     
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  4. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    Fully agree

    Its just all negative..............not to mention pure fantasy

    When focusing on anyone including yourself

    Instead of playing silly mind games of what you didnt do..............................why cant you actually focus on what you did do

    After all there is infinite possiblities of what you didnt do

    But only one truth of what you did actually do

    Focus on reality.............what actually came to pass

    Not a complete load of shite fantasy world..........of what could of been
     
    FLINT ISLAND, Jan 5, 2009
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  5. Thomasl19

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    Johnson
     
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  6. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Totally agree Flint
     
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  7. widdy

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    i just can't see how he can be a all time great,yes he was good,he beat some half decent boxers/champs,but boom boom was past it,on the slide,robinson was a strong boxer but hardly the best feather in the world at the time.he nearly got his arsed kicked against kelly who was way past it(naz just about had the better chin)and when he fought a 'not past it in barrera',he got whipped like mr whippy on a fookin hot day,none of this 'he dident train right bollox' he got whipped.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................full stop.
     
    widdy, Jan 5, 2009
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  8. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Boxing News picked Hamed to win in three or four one sided rounds. Are you guys sure you watched boxing back then?:rofl
     
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  9. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :rofl Not really.... been on the roids?
     
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  10. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He battered Kelley. It wasn't close, in truth.

    And there's no full stop about it - he was a part time fighter when he faced Barrera. The hunger had gone.
     
    trotter, Jan 5, 2009
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  11. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Ok, so we have established the Boxing News had Hamed has the favourite :think I don't really see this as cast iron proof that Johnson was shot, if I'm honest.
     
    El Cepillo, Jan 5, 2009
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  12. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    He didn't batter Kelley, it was back and forth, Kelley was one of the few fighters that hurt Naz, that first round he could have KO'd Naz. That is what made it such an iconic and memorable fight. When it got the third, you could see something changed, Naz got into the grove and did what he always did.
     
    El Cepillo, Jan 5, 2009
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  13. widdy

    widdy lancs,where real men live Full Member

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    battered kelly,did you watch the fight mate,both were up and down more than my wifes knickers.

    oh,part time fighter my arse,he got beat,and beat good,by the better fighter,any day of the week
     
    widdy, Jan 5, 2009
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  14. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Naz circa 1996/7 was a very different proposition to the one that faced Barrera.
     
    El Cepillo, Jan 5, 2009
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  15. widdy

    widdy lancs,where real men live Full Member

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    good job he dident fight him back then,what excuse would you all make then:think

    ps,im not saying he wasent good,just not the best at the time:good
     
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