Handspeed is the most overrated thing in boxing

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    If all you have is speed then yes I agree to some extent but if you can combine that with genuine skills then it can turn you from being just very good to great.

    If one attribute is the most overrated I'd say it's power not speed.

    The most under rated is good footwork, most don't even know the difference between good and bad footwork. People will see a quick footed fighter or a fighter who's well balanced and assume that's good foot work, but that's isn't the case. Placement, angles and direction of movement is more important than having good balance or fast feet.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I'd rather have less punching power than a Chris Algieri or a Leonard Bundu (is that even possible?) and be slower than Primo Carnera punching underwater than be cursed with a glass jaw. Nothing more repulsive and shameful than a so called man who's packing glass in their whiskers. In fact, I'd spiral into a deep depression if my mandible was forged out of anything less study than iron.
     
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  3. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All depends on how the fighter applies it. Speed kills. But look at Andre Dirrell, lightning fast and his career was a massive let down.
     
  4. BCS8

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    Such a pity because Khan is pretty entertaining until his lights inevitably get switched off.
     
  5. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Abs stamina is the most under rated aspect of top tier boxing, or mma style wrestling
     
  6. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Don't forget opposition. He stepped up to Brook and lost a lot of rounds to a damaged and drained fighter.
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    footwork, timed combos, brains, cardio.
     
  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    No Hearns did.
     
  9. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It's a joke I have to state this every time, but let me start by saying Spence, Loma and Joshua are my 3 favorite active fighters to watch.....


    Spence is Brook 2.0.

    I've stated this many times.

    I don't mean 2.0 in the sense that he's a 'better' version.....
    He's just the current version.


    Brook was avoided by all Welters after he beat Porter.
    The fact he was on the opposite side of the pond to Thurman/Porter/Garcia, allowed him to be avoided year after year, until he had no choice but to take a fight like GGG.

    He had to take the GGG fight!
    There were no signs of Khan ever fighting him.....
    Thurman/Garcia/Porter were always avoiding him.....
    Brook needed to secure a payday.


    I still stand by the fact that Prime Brook is better than any version of Spence we have seen to date....
    But Spence will still improve.

    Spence will be able to secure 'big paying' fights on his terms.
    Which means the constant weight draining should not destroy him, like it did Brook.
     
  10. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're troll.
    That was brook at his best that night. If he was drained so was Spence since they're exactly the same size at any time during the year
     
  11. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    I can't tell if you are trolling.

    Brook went up TWO weight classes and got his face caved in by the hardest punching middleweight in the division.

    Then he drained back down TWO divisions and fought Spence.
     
  12. Cafe

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    Timing beats speed but speed makes timing easier. If you have bigger window to react to/throw punches that's a massive advantage in boxing.
     
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  13. Octolony shore

    Octolony shore Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Totally agree with that, there is just no fix for a glass jaw.
     
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  14. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    It may be overated but it is still a plus not a minus.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The sentence for any man caught in possession of a glass jaw should be life imprisonment lol
     
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