Haney didnt win more than 6 rounds at best

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Guerra, May 21, 2023.


Page 1 of 2
  1. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,390
    4,332
    May 23, 2020
    Even that is a reach. More like 4/5 at best.
    Loma was the clear winner and got robbed by a hometown decision.
    Having Haney up 5-4 after 9 is the most generous score for him. After 10/11 being Loma rounds and 12 a go either way type round no way can you argue for a Haney win.

    This is similair as if Maidana would have won the first Floyd fight. At best you could argue a draw. And Maidana had a better claim than Haney had for that.
     
    Guerra, May 21, 2023
    Guerra, May 21, 2023
    #1
    Perkin Warbeck and Jackman65 like this.
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    113,002
    48,092
    Mar 21, 2007
    Which rounds did you give Lomachenko?

    I had Haney 5-4 up after nine, the tenth and eleventh were clear for Loma, the 12th was clear for Haney. 6-6.
     
    McGrain, May 21, 2023
    McGrain, May 21, 2023
    #2
    Pimp C, shadow111 and KO KIDD like this.
  3. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,940
    7,604
    Jan 21, 2015
    I had it 7-5 Haney.
     
    Lesion of Doom, May 21, 2023
    Lesion of Doom, May 21, 2023
    #3
  4. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,462
    1,725
    Nov 20, 2007
    He didn't need to win more than 6 to retain his belts, Slowstartchenko was too tentative and you can't pick up belts on the road like that. Everybody said he MUST go full 12 or scores will not fall kindly on his ears, and you know what he didn't have? Urgency, costing him another win.

    Admittedly Drawmachenko would be the more fair moniker, however a challenger still returns home empty handed if that was the outcome, and its hard to favor him doing more than this one year down the road.
     
    BigBone, May 21, 2023
    BigBone, May 21, 2023
    #4
    Pimp C likes this.
  5. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,390
    4,332
    May 23, 2020
    I had Loma up 5-4 after 9, gave him 1/3/5/7/8
    Haney won 2/4/6/9
    10-11 were clear Loma rounds
    12 thought it was an even round, but you could argue it either way.

    Moretti gave Haney round 10. Which is even more ridiculous than that 116-112 card.
     
    Guerra, May 21, 2023
    Guerra, May 21, 2023
    #5
    gollumsluvslave and McGrain like this.
  6. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    15,114
    12,560
    Jun 21, 2015
    Someone saying that round 12 was "even" has the same credibility as moretti, tbh. Actually even worse.
     
    chacal, May 21, 2023
    chacal, May 21, 2023
    #6
    drenlou and deadACE like this.
  7. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,390
    4,332
    May 23, 2020
    How come? It was a close round.i dont mind if someone score that for Haney, Loma or even. It was the closest round in the fight.
    Thats why I cant see past 7-5, 8-4,7-4-1 loma.
    6-6 is a reach if you favour Haney but cant see how he won the fight.
     
    Guerra, May 21, 2023
    Guerra, May 21, 2023
    #7
  8. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    15,114
    12,560
    Jun 21, 2015
    Round 12 is a extremelly clear round for haney. As clear as a round can be. Anyone having any doubt about that is clearly biased.
     
    chacal, May 21, 2023
    chacal, May 21, 2023
    #8
    drenlou and KO KIDD like this.
  9. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,390
    4,332
    May 23, 2020
    Agree to disagree I guess. Doesnt change anything though overall.
     
    Guerra, May 21, 2023
    Guerra, May 21, 2023
    #9
    columbo likes this.
  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

    47,857
    27,809
    Oct 23, 2011
    I'm about to watch the fight and score it. My opinion is the final verdict that cannot be disputed. There is a good chance I get bored halfway through and decide to make a Fury thread instead.
     
    miniq, May 21, 2023
    miniq, May 21, 2023
    #10
    chacal likes this.
  11. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    15,114
    12,560
    Jun 21, 2015
    Ofc it changes things. In your comment I read "I'm biased towards Loma, I wanted Loma to win and all I could get was 115-113".

    I insints, 155-113 judges cards are fair cards. That's good scoring. Very good scoring actually.
     
    chacal, May 21, 2023
    chacal, May 21, 2023
    #11
  12. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,593
    2,745
    Sep 25, 2020
    Scoring is too broad and subjective. Most people are scoring what they personally like to see. Loma's resurgence from the opening bell shocked everybody (ala Duran-Barkley). Those little things add up in the minds of viewers BUT we still need the fight to be scored accordingly....

    EITHER way, this wasn't clear cut at all. Both men had a significant case for being the winner.
     
    HolDat, May 21, 2023
    HolDat, May 21, 2023
    #12
    deadACE and TipNom like this.
  13. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,140
    9,391
    Jul 11, 2012
    Haney won the 1st half of the fight :boxing:
    Loma won the back half & of course
    “”The Story of the fight”:risas3::jaja-no:

    For the record …. I’d like to punch Max Kellerman repeatedly in his stupid bug eye face!:boxing1
     
    Hanz Cholo, May 21, 2023
    Hanz Cholo, May 21, 2023
    #13
    vast likes this.
  14. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

    47,857
    27,809
    Oct 23, 2011
    Max Kellerman is on crack giving Loma 6,7 & 8.

    Haney has a long career ahead of him at 24 but if he goes up to 140 he is getting chinned at some point. Ain't a great sheikh but he's a quality operator.

    1,2,4,5,6,8 - Haney
    3,7,9,10,11 - Loma

    12? Total pick em'

    Draw would have been ideal however Loma is only getting worse with age.

    Haney dominated early with his bodywork

    Not sure how so many people had Loma winning. Nah...draw at best for him. He is old.
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2023
    miniq, May 21, 2023
    miniq, May 21, 2023
    #14
  15. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,390
    4,332
    May 23, 2020
    Which 7 rounds you gave to Haney then?
    I honestly dont care about who won by the way.
     
    Guerra, May 21, 2023
    Guerra, May 21, 2023
    #15
Page 1 of 2