Haney didnt win more than 6 rounds at best

Couldn't agree more. I thought this fight was a case of picking what you like and both fighters did good work in different ways. It was hard to score and anybody making a claim that it was a clear win for either fighter, I have to wonder about ulterior motives. For some reason people seem desperate for "their" guy to win but a draw was probably a fair result. It wasn't a robbery

 

1 Loma
2 Haney
3 Loma
4 Haney
5 Haney
6 Haney
7 Haney
8 Loma
9 Haney
10 Loma
11 Loma
12 Haney


And I scored 1st round for loma, which is a mistake. First round, I've rewatched it and it's Haney's.

Judges' 115-113 is a perfectly fine result. And 116-112 is closer to reality than 114-114.

The only robbery here is in lomachenko's nuthuggers' minds.

 

I dont agree. I've just rewatched round 12 5 mins ago, round 12 is even until last minute, in the last minute lomachenko loses the round and loses it clearly, losing the fight with it.

 

I agree. You could give it a draw. But Devon did not deserve the win as Loma landed many more clean headshots. And I am saying though I am a body type puncher guy

 

I would not say the 12th was clear for Devon. He still fought on the back foot. he may have edged it. if you give it to him, the best he deserved was a draw.

 

Which rounds did you give to Loma out of the first 9?

I gave Loma 1, 3, 10 and 11. I gave Haney 2, 4, 5, 6, and 12. So that leaves 7-9, each of those close. If you give 2 of 3 of those to Haney, he wins, if you give 2 of 3 of those to Loma, it's a draw.

And if you give Round 1 to Haney, as many people did, then Loma would need 7, 8 and 9 just for a draw.

It seems that perhaps the clearest rounds for Haney were 4-6. I don't think many people gave those to Loma. But 7-9 are more debatable.

 

It was very tough to score. While watching it live, I had Haney up 4-2 after 6, but rounds 7-9 were so tight I sort of stopped scoring at that point, because I couldn't decide and was just enjoying watching it at that point without worrying about scoring it. I have to go back to watch 7-9 again and really study those closely. Round 1, it was probably wrong for me to score it for Loma, if I go back I would probably score it for Haney, but I guess I was just expecting more out of Haney out of the gate, and Loma kept it close, then had the late flurry.

I guess it comes down to, if you scored Round 1 for Haney, I'm guessing you'd have to give Loma 7-9 to argue he did enough to win, and I'm not sure that those were clear Loma rounds. If those were each could have gone either way sort of rounds, then it's not unreasonable to have Haney winning. I'd be interested if anyone saw 7-9 as clear Loma rounds.

 

I had Haney winning 115-113 but I thought there were only five truly clear cut rounds. The other seven could have gone one way or the other, at least semi-reasonably. While I would not be thrilled with 108-104 Lomachenko, I could live with up to 108-104 for either fighter without thinking it was a truly unreasonable scorecard. There was no corruption and there were no blind judges.

 

Well, Lomachenko should have thrown more body punches. He was pretty effective with them WHEN HE FINALLY STARTED THROWING THEM IN THE 10TH ROUND.

Amatuer headhunter

 

And on top of all that, when you consider the fact that Haney was the Undisputed Champion, Loma was the challenger and the underdog, it shouldn't come as a shock that Haney won a close decision. I had no problem with Haney winning, but you can surely make the case for Loma. It was one of those cases where Loma left enough rounds on the table that allowed the Champion to retain his title.

 

He was landing on Haneys head, No reason to throw more body punches. Haney also fights with his head forward and body curved back so it is harder to reach. When you bounce 110+ punches off your opponents head why bother with the body. Haney landed 50 body punches on Loma and they had zero impact on the fight. Tells you something about Haneys power.

 

you are right there. Loma mixing up his attack would have given him a clear win.

I value body shots a lot and Devon threw some vicious body shots in there. But at a certain point these have to be followed up by clean head shots. Never happened. I just can't give this fight to Devon because Loma landed many more clean head shots