Haney is WAY bigger than Loma in faceoff

FrankinDallas · Apr 1, 2023

Serge said: ↑

I'd be inclined to take the weight bullying isn't a thing crowd a bit more seriously if they actually drew a distinction between multiple weight champions who were small or average sized for their first weight and ones who were absolutely massive for not only their first but even their second and still big at the weight or at worse the same size as their opponents at even higher weights and only moved up because they could no longer make weight.

You have fighter A. who is rehydratingup to 5lbs who is regularly facing opponents who outweigh them by 1, 2 or 3 divisions and are routinely giving away huge physical advantages after moving up

Fighter B. who is rehydrating 10-15lbs

And fighter C. who is rehydrating 15-20 if not more who are facing opponents they outweigh by 1, 2 or even sometimes 3 divisions who they always hold huge physical advantages over

Which one is much more difficult and impressive and deserving of credit?

It's not rocket science

But they don't. They act like both are doing exactly the same thing so they can crown their favs greats and fast track them up the P4P rankings at the expense of far more accomplished fighters who have and are actually facing way bigger opponents when they move up in weight and win titles in higher divisions not ones they're way bigger than, bigger than or roughly the same size as.

Surely beating a prime world champion your size is the bare minimum requirement for warranting inclusion in the P4P top 10, especially when you're going to rank them above ones who've literally not only done that many times but have done so many times against ones bigger or way bigger many times

Both deserve equal credit doe

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I'm pretty sure there are weight divisions for a reason. Otherwise, every fight would be David vs Goliath.

Serge · Apr 1, 2023

DonnyMo said: ↑

that's surreal

I've always heard since the Linares fight that Haney rehydrates 20lbs, now that he's older (and obviously from those freakish pics) it's no stretch to imagine it's 24lbs now
His dad doesn't even deny it..

That's 17% above the weigh-in. 10% is considered the healthy limit.
Canelo gaining 11% when he came to the ring at 172 against Trout was considered scandalous.

For what it's worth, I've heard that Loma comes to the ring at 142lbs
3 inches and 17lbs against an elite athlete 11yrs younger is an obscene task
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He rehydrates 20lbs bare minimum and the fact that his dad didn't deny it was 24lbs says it all

Loma comes in at 140 max. Unless he's put on a couple of pounds of late. So it's 15lbs bare minimum and 5.5'' in reach and that's just ring weight not natural size. The narrative they're trying to push is that Haney is more skillful than Loma and size has no bearing in this fight which is not only comically absurd it's demonstrably false and easily so

Size isn't just weight it's length too and when you outweigh your opponent by 2 or 3 divisions and have a way longer reach than them it's much easy to keep the fight at your range and that's exactly what Haney is doing against all the blown up 126, 130 and average sized 135 champs he's fought, which numbers 4 in total and 2 were shot. And then he hugs them to death whenever they get into range with those amazing ''skills'' of his

Serge · Apr 1, 2023

FrankinDallas said: ↑

I'm pretty sure there are weight divisions for a reason. Otherwise, every fight would be David vs Goliath.
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Yes

Salad Man · Apr 1, 2023

bandeedo said: ↑

im a fan of loma more than haney, who i could take or leave, but haney is making weight and performing at high level. if you think hes picking on loma, tell loma to get his narrow ass down to a weight more to your liking, and quit trying to fight guys he has no business fighting.
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I don't literally think he's picking on anyone, just that no one should be surprised that he gets criticized for squeezing down and fighting smaller guys. The old saying "pick on someone your own size" does imply bullying, but also indicates that someone may not be so tough, so brave, or so good when they don't have the size advantage to hide behind.

bandeedo · Apr 1, 2023

Salad Man said: ↑

I don't literally think he's picking on anyone, just that no one should be surprised that he gets criticized for squeezing down and fighting smaller guys. The old saying "pick on someone your own size" does imply bullying, but also indicates that someone may not be so tough, so brave, or so good when they don't have the size advantage to hide behind.
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well, hes fighting in a division full of guys his size, he has no choice but to be tough. loma is the odd man out, its not the job of the rest of the division to accommodate him.

Salad Man · Apr 1, 2023

bandeedo said: ↑

well, hes fighting in a division full of guys his size, he has no choice but to be tough. loma is the odd man out, its not the job of the rest of the division to accommodate him.
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I agree. I'm not making excuses for Loma, it's his decision.

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