Haney was 165lbs vs Prograis

It's ridiculous, but he isn't a weight bully, he makes the weight.

Let's be real here, Prograis weighing in above the LMW for a LWW fight is also ridiculous. But again he isn't a weight bully as he makes the weight.

The stupid system allows fighters 24 hours to rehydrate, boxers fight at whichever weight they feel strongest at. It is what it is.

Bring back same day weigh ins. Let's go back to a time when a light welter weight fight was actually at 140 and not a MW Vs a SMW.

 

hopefully now boxing catches up to the reality of weight cutting. wrestlers and high level mma fighters are capable of even crazier stuff than this,even without IVs. Alex pereira got 185 from 225 and back again, tibau from 195 to 155 and back again and many more. the guys doing "small cuts" are cutting 20-25.

 

That's the problem though.
It then becomes about who responds better to PED's.
There was a multimodality peer review a few years ago demonstrating 3-15% improvement on gear. So it boils down to a higher potential ceiling, that wouldn't be reached without the sauce.
This is easier to equate in lifting or sprinting over boxing.
Personally I've always looked at it as bullying a smaller man. I've lost count over the last few decades seeing fights where one fighter looks and is two divisions bigger than their opponent.
If two opponents are equally skilled, one is 15 lbs heavier then we generally know the outcome.

 

Well that's ok then.

NOT!

I know there are pros and cons about timing of weight ins, but I believe they should be done no later than 24 hours before a fight.
Thus, if a guy has to lose a couple pounds he has time to do so. But 36 hours just shows that Haney's handlers knew he needed to
rehydration a lot.

 

Yeah can you imagine him against sugar Shane Mosley? Dude would make Haney run for his life.

 

I have no doubt that Haney must've used an illegal IV on the DL to rehydrate that much.

 

And still he cant crack an egg. Ridiculous.

 

The rehydration time is for fighters' sake.

By no mean we can allow an extremely dehydrated fighter to enter in the ring and fight, the amount of damage that a brain in this condition would take is simply not acceptable.

Maybe weighing the figthers twice a week for 2 months before the fight in title fights? Is it feasible? I don't know, but any option is better than an extremely dehydrated brain taking punches. That's not an option.

 

There is no such thing as a weight bully. It's playing within the rules; obviously, if he used peds then he deserves to be punished.

But the solution is to institute hydration clauses. If these guys want to do these huge cuts, then they can fight in a diminished state

 

We both know the top professionals can comfortably circumnavigate any testing for any of this, I mean I've watched you tube videos with with consultants clearly explaining how to do it. Lance Armstrong is the poster boy for this, but being a keen cyclist myself following the sport for 35 years, the reality is they were / are all at it. It's scientifically very sophisticated especially for those at the top of a sport, it's not just about increased performance, the key is quicker recovery in both performance and injury.

 

I really don't like it. I used to fight competitively at a relatively high level. My martial art used to always be same day weigh in, and it felt fair. I've also chosen to fight in tournaments, on the day, above my weight class a handful of times, but that was my choice to have a weight disadvantage, not my opponents.

My martial art has its problems too with organizational bias, but it's like every aspect of boxing is set up to remove the ideals of what a sport should be. Smh

 

And for all of that, and for as nice a boxer as he is, Haney is still a feather fisted fairy.

 

an aging fw beat a middleweight and got robbed. that is pretty ****ed up.