Hang on, if Calzaghe fights Dawson and then retires, isn't he ducking Pavlik??

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  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    It's not a matter of how good Kelly is, or is not. He lost an embarassingly one sided fight to a guy slappy Joe beat. Joe can just point at that, and say "nope." Everything that went on before is null and void. That's just how boxing works sometimes. The fact that Kelly was sick and injured, and even lied to his promoter to keep Arum from postponing the BHop fight, isn't relevant. The loss wipes out everything up to and including all of Calzaghe's lies and trash talk before hand. You're only as good as your latest performance, and Kelly lost every ****ing round to Hopkins. Not allowing Team Pavlik and Top Rank to post pone the fight was his mistake, and he'll have to live with it.
     
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  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Pavlik fought at 164 and at 170...if Calzaghe was ducking him then, why is he not ducking him now?:huh
     
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  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    So, really, Calzaghe would be ducking Pavlik, but he'd get away with it because Hopkins schooled an injured, sick Pavlik in his previous fight, is that it?
     
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  4. DINAMITA

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    A tired old gag. Pavlik was absolutely embarrassed by Hopkins who Calzaghe beat by a whisker in the eyes of the judges. Therefore, a Calzaghe v Pavlik isn't really on the agenda now, especially given Pavlik doesn't want to fight above 160 anymore. Circumstances. However, circumstances are that Chad Dawson has now beaten Johnson, Tarver, Adamek and Harding. Surely you must admit that's now a cracking fight at 175??
     
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  5. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    how was he ducking him before?? thats all I want to know, was there a deal on the table....NO. so how was he ducking a fighter 2 eight classes below?? I justy dont see what your talking about.
     
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  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He was! HBO was saying so! The American boxing writers were saying so! The American fans were saying so!

    ...just like they're saying now he's ducking Dawson!;)

    But how can he be ducking Dawson if he's still ducking Pavlik? Should he not be fighting Pavlik, the man he ducked first, and only then go after Dawson?:huh
     
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  7. dudester33

    dudester33 New Member Full Member

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    he's being sarcastic ffs, ( least i hope he is )
     
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  8. TheGrimReaper

    TheGrimReaper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no hes not...if joe thinks he is the lightheavyweight champ he needs to fight chad dawson
     
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  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :lol:

    Well, I'm just surprised that so many of the people that said Calzaghe was ducking Pavlik before the Jones fight no longer say that now, but instead say that he is ducking Dawson of all people all of a sudden! :huh
     
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  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    How would ducking the Lineal Champion, Erdei, prove that Calzaghe was the LHW Champ, just by beating Chad Dawson? Why Chad Dawson and not the man that put the fear of god into Chad Dawson - Adrian Diaconu?:huh
     
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  11. NALLEGE

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    You must be out of your damn mind.
     
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  12. TheGrimReaper

    TheGrimReaper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    erdei is nothing...its fighters like him that give joe a bad rap.....as far as chad scared of diaconu...dont make me laugh
     
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  13. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Cal told PAv to pad his resume which is what he should've done. Pav and his compadres truly thought he could beat Cal lol. That fight would have been a joke to watch. See Hop-Pav for details. I know I know...just because Hop did it don't mean Cal would lol. Yada, yada, yada!
     
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  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    No -- but I do follow boxing and stay abreast of the facts.
     
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  15. jc

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    Personally I dont think Dawson is that more impressive than some other guys between 160 and 175, but he is the most obvious 'american' challenge and that is the difference. The fact that Erdei is considered linear champ is irrelevent, he's not American.

    If Joe were to beat Dawson and i think he would, it wouldnt be long before the next american contender is being ducked. If Taylor KOs Lacy expect him to be 'ducked' aswell...:patsch
     
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