Hard to believe Marquez would cheat.......

Exactly, which also means he worked more on weight lifting/power for this one. He gave something away to provide something else. That hardly sounds/looks like someone on PEDs.

 

First Manny was suppose to knock JMM (in which his stans has constanly being saying for months leading up to the fight) now that didnt work out...JMM is on PED!:rofl

Gotta love the ignorant ****s on ESB. JMM started to sit down more on his punches in which we saw the results of that.

 

If JMM is on PEDS it's Pac 's fault for not asking for random PED testing. I have no pity for him or his fans.

 

Thats exactly what happened. Sacrificing some speed was definitely a gamble but the **** worked

 

To be fair the ped accusations came way before the fight took place

 

They came before the third fight too and Marquez openly offered mutual random blood tests.

 

Marquez was able to do this for 36 rounds prior to this fourth fight, Ariza has stated and its been confirmed Manny DID NOT do any of his floor work he did NOT do any of his S&C during camp.

and that was the difference, Marquez had 36 rounds and 8 years to study Manny and in 36 rounds you could make a case Marquez won each time when you give a fighter like Marquez who gave Manny hell for their first three fights you turn around and give that man a 4th chance look a broken clock is right twice a day sooner or later he is going to know you enough to turn it in his favor.

You never give a man with a point to prove a 4th shot especially when he has stated he feels that Pacquiao stole his life going in, and knowing all of that knowing who he was working with for S&C and knowing how the third fight went Pacquiao decides not to do his Floor work in the gym no S&C for this fight?

Yet he expects he is just going to walk down Marquez and knock him out? be real fights are won in the gym, Manny came in with that same sloppy careless attack and paid the price for it he would have been better off to box Marquez as he did in the 2nd....

get a ****ing grip Manny did not put in the work in the gym to win this fight

 

I cant deny that...but its seems like now that a lot of people are sucking this thing up.

 

I sure hope you apply this same standard to Ward, Berto, and Donaire. And don't try to tell me about how Conte is a changed man because one can just as easily write the same crap about Heredia.

 

Gay as it sounds I cant help but think of Rocky 3

Rocky went all hollywood while Clubber trained his ass off. Marquez was haunted by Pacquiao and took this **** way more serious than Manny did, and it paid off for him

And Marquez has a good chin and I think is literally the best in the boxing world at fighting hurt and recovering from knockdowns, so it really doesnt surprse me that he fought through a broken nose and a concussion.
It also goes to show that Manny was really starting to put that heat on his ass before the ko

 

It was all fun and games before that ko, now im sure anyone who was suspicious is like **** maybe that n*gga is on peds!
**** the ko tho, that was a perfect punch, you gotta admit its crazy to see him drop the **** out of Manny with one punch in the 3rd when he couldnt do anything like that in all their other fights

 

It does seem like Rocky 3, and Marquez has fought through the brocken nose and concussion in the first round of their first fight people have selective memories.

Yes the PED allegations were out going into the third fight, Yet Team Marquez said they are willing to do testing and in the fourth fight they said they would be willing to take test both time Team Pacquiao did not agree to test....

The question I have is why? why wouldnt you take Marquez up on his offer?

 

Bo0M!!!

 

You said team Pac didnt agree, meaning Marquez requested it and it was denied, or he was just willing to do extra testing upon request? I didnt hear anything about Marquez' team requesting extra testing and that being denied

 

Marquez said it on 24/7 so did angel for their 3rd fight, it came up again this time around and both said the same **** if they want to take blood urine what ever kind of testing we are willing to do so.
Pacquiao and his camp did not take them up on it