Harder puncher at 160 - Jones or GGG?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by JohnThomas1, Oct 7, 2020.

Who hit harder at 160?

  1. RJJ

  2. It's a wash/i have no stones.

  3. GGG

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  1. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This. The fact is that, unless we have tasted the best punch of both men (and, regrettable though it may be, I doubt Mendoza has) we're all only speculating. But what you said seems to sum it up well. Someone said earlier it was like comparing Tyson's snappy power with Foreman's clubbing force with Roy being Tyson while GGG is Foreman which was a good analogy.

    And I'm only speculating but I would guess that, as they both combined Roy's speed and snap with GGG's heavy hands, the guys in your avatar hit harder than both men in this thread. Yet I would pick both Roy and GGG over G-Man and Benn so what does that show us? That all these threads about who hit harder are all missing the point?
     
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  2. m.s.

    m.s. Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought Murray should have got the decision over Abraham .
     
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  3. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

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    You haven't addressed the point of Golovkin being well past prime when the best fighters wanted a part of him, like everyone else when talking about Golovkin.
     
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  4. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

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    Measure both their punches in psi, GGG hits harder.
    I'd rather take a free hit from Jones than GGG.
    GGG hits harder
     
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  5. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I suppose attempting to address the points I actually made was too difficult for you.

    No surprise there, though.
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    "Well past prime"?? You're a moron.. When challenged about this a few weeks ago you ran away.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    @Mendoza has ducked/QUIT the debate
     
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  8. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I do not know who is the bigger puncher. But it seems like Mendoza and BCS8 (if they are not the same poster) have put on another extremely weak case.:lol::lol::lol:
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    You clocked was cleaned kid, back for more? I can be busy, PM if if I miss something and I'll get back to it. Deal?

    1 ) GGG has over 20 world title defenses at middle weight. Lets start there, 9 is FALSE. Strike one. Move you goalposts where you need to GGG has WAY more title defenses are middleweight than either Jones or Toney, End of . Its a losing argument.

    2 ) Jones was 24-0 with 23 KOs at middleweight you say? FALSE. Look, Jones had at least two fights at super welter. How do those count in your #'s? Your not very well read. Also he went the distance with Castro and Hopkins at middle weight, so when you say 24- 0with 23 Ko's 1 ) Your including two non middle weight fights, and 2 ) your not listing one person at middle whom he went the distance with!

    Your points have been exposed to be false, poorly researched and wrong.

    Please explain to me whee the BS 24-0, 23 KO'd come from, and while your at it? No ducking please. Also if you are honest, Jones fought many soft touches on the way up.

    Now watch this space, Golovkin stopped 34 of his first 36 opponent with 18 of them being world title matches! 95% Amigo, with 18 world title defenses. That is amazing, no one in the history of boxing can top it. Your reaction is?

    Oh and as we know GGG's KO % towers above Roid Jones.

    On the topic of PED' Absue, how do you factor that in to Jones power do tell?

    I keep reply here to a comedy of errors and falsehoods.... only to cirrus them and what the other go g silent on his points.

    Also on Roy Jones, I know people who have met him. His tale of the tape is off, they say he's about 5'9" tall and thin boned.

    If you can admit your mistakes, you will go up in status.

    -M
     
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  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Your a ADHD defect, low IQ person. Read my post #84. Sorry Dino, attaching your hopes to posters smarter than you before I reply isn't going to work well for you.
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    See my post #84. I only post as Mendoza. A weak case?:nonono Not even a fanboy like you should say that after reading the facts.. Let's look at some quick data.

    Golovkin stopped 34 of his first 36 opponent with 18 of them being world title matches! 95% KO ratio, with 18 world title defenses. That is amazing, no one in the history of boxing can top it. Your reaction is?

    On the topic of PED' Absue, how do you factor that in to Jones power? Do Tell?

    GGG overall KO % towers over Jones. Not even close, and you know it.


    To address the how many people Ring Magazine Ranked Opponents did GGG beat, I have that information:

    Geale ( KO WIN )
    Murray ( KO WIN )
    Lemieux ( KO WIN )
    Jacobs ( Decision )
    Rubio ( KO WIN )
    Macklin ( KO WIN )
    Stevens ( KO WIN )
    Canelo ( Bogus Draw and loss to anyone who knows how to score a fight)
    Derevyanchenko ( Decision )

    So GGG here is officially 8-1-1 but should be 10-0, with the loss and draw happening outside his prime due to very crooked Judging.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Someone's clock was cleaned. And it wasn't mine.
    No he doesn't. You're the one moving goal posts. The regular WBA title is complete bull**** and is basically an interim bauble which gets given our willy-nilly. It's like claiming Trevor Bryan is the current heavyweight champion. It's just bull****.
    Well done him. He has more defences, but a worse résumé.... everyone clap GGG! :clapclap:
    Typo. 22 KOs. It's still 95%.
    It must tear you up that Castro would be one or GGG's best wins. :lol:
    Poorly typed. Aside from that, they're bang on. In fact, the only one poorly researched and wrong is you, and your claims GGG that has 20 title defences.
    See above. And less than GGG.
    18 lmao. You mean 8? And given just how poor that competition is, I'm not impressed.
    Who cares? Who really gives a ****? You don't count btw. Like seriously, there's so many outside factors that it literally means nothing. GGG wouldn't stop the level of guys that Jones did, and Jones would obliterate everyone who GGG fought. Including Jacobs and Canelo.
    I don't know. And honestly, I don't care. There was never a point where Jones wasn't on PEDs, if he was on them at all. So I'm taking that verison whether he was on PEDs or not.
    You keep not making sense pal
    I'm sure their estimations are more accurate than the Olympic standard measurements. :lol:
    I admit I made a typo. And I well and truly could not give one rats arsehole about your 'status'.


    Still haven't replied to that post. Keep ducking. Keep changing the subject.
     
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  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    My hopes were that you would respond to my last two posts , but you ducked them. You dispute Jacobs was chinny but when presented with the evidence you went running as usual.

    Forget about hurling petty insults. You keep saying you will destroy me in debate Well , do it.. Destroy me!! Go back and refute posts 63 & 65 , ducker.
     
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  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Jacobs held the WBA regular against Golovkin who held the real WBA belt. .There can only be one WBA Champ which was Golovkin , NOT Jacobs.

    You must not understand that those 20 defences were not of the same belt. Now you do
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I answers them. Get Help. Tell us how Jacobs who was only stopped once in 39 fight is Chiny? I say he was not chinny at all. You " think " he was. Explain why, this ought to be funny.
     
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