Harder puncher: Gassiev or Briedis?

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The Iron or Lethal Latvian?

Poll closed May 5, 2018.
  1. Murat Gassiev

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  2. Mairis Briedis

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I mean, I wouldn't say it wasn't close. Gassiev to me clearly hits a bit harder, but of all other cruisers I think Briedis is nearest to him, outside maybe Kudryashov and Ilunga Makabu standing neck and neck as the second tier of the pyramid of CW power, with the next & tertiary below them composed of the likes of Tabiti, Dorticos himself, Russian secret weapon Yuri Kashinski, and the formerly overrated but now underrated (again, boxing fans are fickle) Krzysztof Głowacki, and Lebedev - and then a slew of "let's wait and see" prospects like Aleksei Papin, Fabio Turchi, Lawrence Okolie, Jai Opetaia, Luis Garcia, Patrick Ferguson etc who all could end up falling on any of those three tiers.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I voted Briedis because that's what I do.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Compare and Contrast, here's Briedis and Gassiev going 12 with the legendarily iron chinned Ismail Abdoul, who ranks up there alongside Chuvalo, truly he deserves more credit, his head is made of adamantium. Anyway, he seems a little more skittish about walking down Briedis than he does with Gassiev, granted that may have something to do with Briedis being more polished and far sharper than Gassiev when he fought Abdoul. He reacts to their power similarly, and is a lot more active late against Gassiev than he is against Briedis, maybe Briedis' shots took more out of him than Gassiev's? Or maybe Gassiev was slightly gassing and had less pop. Its something to consider at least. Power wise, they seem about the same IMO. Also, his match against the greener Gassiev was a little closer than the one with Briedis, which was basically a shutout.

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  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Briedis can punch hard, but so can Gassiev, perhaps Gassiev can punch a little harder. The problem is when you fight Usyk, you have to land your punches, that will be difficult to do, plus Usyk has a good chin in case he does get him, so it's not easy to fight Usyk...................Gassiev did very well in the Dorticos fight, really well..............but Usyk is not Dorticos, we won't know until after the fight is over really..................Papa Lomachenko will have Usyk ready and Abel will have Gassiev ready, Usyk has the amateur experience factor that could make the difference. Usyk is much better than Dorticos...........
     
  5. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    To think Gassiev is just 24 and probably has around a decade to improve is quite something.
     
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  6. BCS8

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    LOL then I don't know what to say. I guess Gassiev must have confused Golovkin for some other fighter that he sparred ;)
     
  7. BCS8

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    :lol:
     
  8. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    From my understanding he and Golovkin get in the ring often and work on things but Abel doesn’t trust them to hit each other in the head, and so won’t allow it.
     
  9. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fair enough. They both have great chins, but Golovkin taking Gassiev's power in sparring does not sound like a good idea.
     
  10. silenc

    silenc dropout bear Full Member

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    Gassiev is better power puncher, also his punch technic is better, but I will give Briedis edge in hand speed and counter punching.
     
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  11. Payback87

    Payback87 Active Member Full Member

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    Easily Gassiev is better puncher , better boxer and better chin as well.Briedis is part time boxer and 33 already , Gassiev was born for this and also trains in the USA with Abel Sanchez etc , big difference.

    I think Briedis is still good but Gassiev is just a tank.Think Gassiev could be wrestler or weight lifter if not boxer ,very strong and tough guy.

    Would like to see Gassiev at HW really.
     
  12. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Call me a sucker for a brutal body shot but I’m picking Gassiev
    Gassiev makes me pee a little every time he lands to the body
     
  13. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Anatoly Lomachenko doesn’t train Usyk. In an interview recently, Anatoly said that Usyk trains himself. Here is an article where Usyk says the same thing, and says he works with a coach named Sergey Vatamanyuk.

    [url]https://ringside24.com/en/19814-usyk-lomachenko-sr-not-my-trainer[/url]
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :thumbsup:

    I rate Abdoul's chin as the 2nd hardest p4p in the last 20 years, behind only Johnny "Fenix" Ruiz, and only because Abdoul is also pretty slick for a journeyman, whereas Ruiz literally spent his entire career blocking punches with his face and still never left his feet.


    ...and that mystery is pretty easy to solve, really. On the surface it may appear that 14-0 Gassiev and 13-0 Briedis ought to be a pretty apples to apples comparison, and that struggling more with Briedis is evidence of his superiority h2h (at least in that one stylistic match-up) or at least maturing to his peak faster. Well, the latter is sort of true; Gassiev from 2011 until 2014 was no doubt talented but had yet to unlock his true potential. He was 18-0 (12) from his debut through his battle with Armenian-German fellow undefeated 9-0 (6) hard-hitting prospect Leon Harth. A third of his opponents went the distance with him in this span...and he wasn't exactly taking on what you'd call stiff tests relative to his experience for the most part (outside Abdoul, Harth and maybe a couple others). He was heavy-handed, but raw. Reason? He still had yet to link up with Abel Sánchez. That happened in late 2014, and their first collaboration was versus Engin Karakaplan that Halloween. Lo and behold, Karakaplan (riding a 4½ year undefeated streak and having last been stopped 5 years earlier, by Youri Kalenga - and, coming fresh off a victory over Jean Marc Monrose for the French cruiser title) was blitzed in 90 seconds. There is an interview of Sánchez bragging about his new acquisition in early November of 2014, and still aglow over the near-instantaneous progress they made together in just a matter of months. Sánchez is also clearly absent from Gassiev's corner in the Harth fight, which is up in full on YouTube:

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    So the pre-Summit version of Gassiev was pretty good but probably was never going to reach the same heights that our timeline's version did, if a butterfly had flapped its wings and he never made it to Sánchez's doorstep. Under the guidance of Abel, he is now 8-0-0-1 (7), and that really ought to be 9-0 (8) including the Isiah Thomas debacle, and the only person to last the distance with him was Lebedev (and even he got plunked).

    By 2015, Gassiev was a primed & ready world title contender (and growing into a gym legend already); in 2016 he grabbed his first championship belt.

    Fairly obviously a whole different animal now than he was pre-Karakaplan (during which era he fought Cool Abdoul).
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Kind of like how Wlad & Vitali weren't allowed to hard-spar after things got too hairy once?
     
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