Hardest hitting heavyweight by results

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  1. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who has the best five KOs in heavyweight history?
     
  2. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think some results may surprise people.
     
  3. SimonLock

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    Ali, and I don’t think it’s particularly close.

    1) Foreman
    2) Liston 1
    3) Patterson 1
    4) Frazier 3
    5) Liston 2
     
  4. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Would seem so. Crazy how he is always thought of as a lighter hitter…def don’t think so.
     
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  5. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :risas3::risas3::risas3:

    You've got to be joking :risas3:

    Foreman punched himself out in the heat of Zaire.
    Liston tore his shoulder in 64 and had to quit due to injury. He took a dive in the second fight.
    Patterson had an injured sacroiliac joint.
    Frazier's camp threw the towel, Ali didn't KO him. And Ali was about to quit himself.

    Ali was a featherfist, for ****s sake.:duh
     
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  6. SimonLock

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    Fair enough, I was including retirements as knockouts. It might well be different if we only include KO and TKO wins, I’ll have another look later. This would exclude the wins over Liston (1) and Frazier (3).

    I suspect the answer would still be Ali, with the closest contender being Marciano.

    The win over Foreman was a victory over a monster champion who had never been beaten. Ali hit him in the head, knocked him down, and the referee stopped it. If we aren’t including that as a knockout win then I’m not sure what definition we are using.
     
  7. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    While he wasn't that powerful, he certainly wasn't featherfisted.
     
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  8. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Looking at the results I think it would be Joe Louis.
    The Brown Bomber knocked out: Primo Carnera, Max Baer, Jack Sharkey, Jim Braddock, Max Schmeling, Jersey Joe Walcott, Billy Conn x2, John Henry Lewis...
    And he did all that in a period of 13 years.
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Ali could put a lot of hurt on his opponent. I don't think any of them said he was featherfisted. He was a very big man but blessed with light feet and ridiculous speed which allowed him to engage and disengage at will rather than have to sit down on his shots.

    He quite rightfully takes this one.
     
  10. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Retirements are not KOs.

    Nope. Ali was never a big puncher.

    While the win in itself is impressive, the KO was not, it was simply due to Foreman punching himself out, not to Ali being a big puncher.
     
  11. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The "hurt" was the result of an accumulation of punches that Ali landed, not due to him being a big hitter/puncher.

    No he doesn't.
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    If you look at Marciano's top 5 he ironed them out good and proper

    1.Wallcott
    2. Charles II
    3. Joe Louis
    4. Harry Mathews
    5. LaStarza II
     
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  13. SimonLock

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    Boxrec counts retirements as KOs, so it’s certainly at least arguable that they are.

    I’m pretty sure that when Boxers are introduced in the ring and are described as having X number of wins including Y wins by knockout, Y includes retirements. I’m happy to be proven wrong on this if I’m mistaken.
     
  14. mr. magoo

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    George Foreman

    1. Joe Frazier
    2. Ken Norton
    3. Michael Moorer
    4. George Chuvalo
    5. Ron Lyle.
    Note: most of these were stoppages not KO’s but if stoppages still count then I vote for George
     
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  15. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Think ur underestimating his strength when he buckled down by a lot. I don’t think he was a top tier strength puncher but by RESULTS it’s not a coincidence he has so many stoppages over great fighters…which is what the post was about. One or two wins ok whatever but Ali had a ridiculous amount t of KOs and TKOs over great opposition.
     
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