Hardest Puncher In Each Weightclass ?

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    HW: Earnie Shavers
    CW: Dmitry Kudryashov
    LHW: Bob Foster
    SMW: Gerald McClellan (?)
    MW: Bob Fitzsimmons
    JMW: Julian Jackson
    WW: Tommy Hearns
    JWW: Randall Bailey
    LW: Edwin Rosario
    SFW: Alexis Arguello
    FW: Danny Lopez
    SBW: Juan Meza (?)
    BW: Terry McGovern
    SFly: Khaosai Galaxy
    Fly: Jimmy Wilde
    JFly: Michael Carbajal
    Min: Ricardo Lopez
     
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  2. BUDW

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  3. Glass City Cobra

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    Ortiz was 38 when he fought wilder. Everytime Ortiz is brought up he somehow gets even older.

    Norton was 35 when Shavers beat him and he had been knocked out by 2 other men, 4 total. He was highly skilled and a great fighter but not very durable against the big hitters.

    Shavers did knock Bugner down and stopped him early, which is impressive because Bugner was a big, cautious, and durable guy, but the fight was stopped on a cut. It's not like he had him down for a 10 count. I would say Wilder stopping Areola with a broken hand is equally as impressive.

    Wilder knocking Fury down multiple times is also comparable to Shavers knocking down Holmes. You can compare Shavers other decent stoppages such as Williams, Clark, Ellis, and Young to Shavers other best stoppages such as Breazeale, Scott, Szpikka, etc. As I said, there's honestly not a lot separating their resumes and level of competition for their KO wins/knockdowns.

    I'm also factoring in the eye test. Wilder looks just as devastating if not more than Shavers in some of his KOs. They look downright scary. Then there's also the fact multiple opponents and sparring partners have had crazy amounts of praise for wilders power and consistently rank him higher than guys like Joshua, Fury, Ruiz, etc.
     
  4. White Bomber

    White Bomber Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :risas3::risas3::risas3:
     
  5. White Bomber

    White Bomber Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Deontay Wilder, Wladimir Klitschko - both bigger punchers than Shavers
     
  6. White Bomber

    White Bomber Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, you need one if you think Shavers is anywhere near the top 3.

    Quality of opposition is irrelevant. A more skilled boxer ain't necessarily got a better chin.
     
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Sure such a **** poster.
     
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  8. Mike Cannon

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    A good thought out list, most of which I agree with, couple of maybes :
    Cruiser- Satterfield
    Middle- Kecthell
    Welter - Jenkins
    Light - Ramirez
    Feather - Saddler
    Bantam - Zarate
    keep safe .
     
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    Mike Cannon Well-Known Member Full Member

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  10. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But he would know how to protect it better.
    Thus, it's relevant.
    Prime example...... Wilfredo Benitez.
    He didn't have a great chin, but he
    knew how to make opponents miss
    it.
    Only two of the absolute best
    fighters in history were able to
    find it consistently and beat him
    in his prime.
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    Thin resume at the top but i definitely like Garza over Meza. Even in his one round KO loss to Meza he showed great power but unfortunately for him he was a glass cannon. Pintor named Gomez over all the guys he fought including Meza. Not the be all and end all but understandable IMO. Callejas did hit hard too as you say he's just a bit short on stuff to gauge. Gomez is right in the mix but it's OK to name a guy like Garza over him IMO tho far less proven overall at the top.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A quick list i did years ago in a rush -

    Heavyweight - Shavers
    Cruiserweight (190) - Marciano
    Light Heavyweight - Foster
    Super Middleweight - Jones
    Middleweight - Jackson
    Junior Middleweight - Jackson
    Welterweight - Hearns
    Junior Welterweight - Tszyu
    Lightweight - Rosario
    Junior Lightweight - Arguello
    Featherweight - Saddler
    Junior Featherweight - Garza
    Bantamweight - Zarate
    Flyweight - Wilde
     
  13. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    Heavyweight - Earnie Shavers
    Cruiserweight - Herbie Hide
    Light Heavyweight - Bob Satterfield
    Super Middleweight - Nigel Benn
    Middleweight - Eugene "Cyclone" Hart
    Junior Middleweight - Julian Jackson
    Welterweight - Thomas Hearns
    Junior Welterweight - Randall Bailey
    Lightweight - Edwin Rosario/Roberto Duran
    Junior Lightweight - Alexis Arguello
    Featherweight - Sandy Saddler
    Junior Featherweight - Jaime Garza
    Bantamweight - Ruben Olivares
    Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
     
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  15. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We're talking about the guy who believes that Shannon Briggs would beat Joe Louis, cause he's a "decent boxer" - remember that.