Hardest Puncher In Each Weightclass ?

Fitzsimmons ain't even in the top 10 MW punchers

 

You make a good point, but your opponent having a good or a bad defense does not make your punch any different.

 

I love how you talk with such a certainty about punching power. Almost like you got hit by Fitzsimmons straight in the head. At least that would explain why you have so many ridiculous takes...

 

You changed your mind on Baer?

 

Yeah, one of my friends made a really good case against him. There just isn't enough evidence to support having him at number one, even if he might've been able to hit the hardest.

 

I would probably put Fitzsimmons and Langford as the overall p4p puncher.

Heavyweight is tough since really anyone over 200 lbs can hurt you, p4p at heavyweight I might go with Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey would be up there. Also Tyson, Foreman etc. Shavers has to be in the conversation though.

 

I'd like to hear the case as well. The more I watch both, the more I think that Louis could hit harder than Baer. Some of shots Joe threw were extremely powerful, while most of Baer's punches were sloppy as hell.

 

Have you seen Shavers' first 30 fights? Earnie beat someone named Bunky Akins who was 5-0. Was he Earnie's best win? Or was it Bill McMurray, a professional loser who fought everyone but had an atrocious 27-23-3 record? Who was Wilder's best opponent in his first 30? Former WBO heavyweight champ Sergei Liakhovich (who Wilder left convulsing on the floor)?

Earnie Shavers didn't knock out Ron Stander (lost to him), Brian Yates (lost to him), George Chaplin (lost to him), Rahim Muhammad, Walter Santemore (lost to him), Quick Tillis (lost to him), Ali Haakim, Tex Cobb (lost to him), Bernardo Mercado (lost to him), Bob Stallings (lost to him), Vicente Rondon or Stan Johnson (lost to him).

How could the best puncher in heavyweight history fail to ko or straight up lose to all those guys?

Earnie lost to and or also couldn't knock out a lot of garbage heavyweights. Even though Earnie outweighed many of them.

Wilder didn't knock out the World Heayvweight Champion Tyson Fury (who outweighed Wilder by 40+ pounds in all their fights)... but Wilder still dropped him four times.

That's it.

And, head-to-head Wilder destroys Shavers.

No contest, it's Wilder over Shavers.

 

With plaster or without?

 

At flyweight Antonio Avelar N1 IMO. Remember this guy stopped: Vasquez (at bantam but hey), F.Castillo, Kim, Oguma, A.Morales and Alfonso Lopez. 5 of them were really good champs

 

Excellent list.

 

Fitz

Fitz never wore plaster in his wraps.That's a crock of ****.

 

Doesn't matter

 

Ezra Sellers was a banger at Cruiserweight, Randall Bailey for light welterweight

 

There are many rumours and indications that he did, like threwing the gloves to the crowd, before these can be inspected by the opposite corner. It was described in the bio pic of Jeffries, who was in their second bout a lot more marked, although in the first was Fitzsimmons at his best and in the second two years out of the ring, almost fourty.