Harold Johnson vs James Toney

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  1. viperzero

    viperzero Member Full Member

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    There is a thread right now on who was more naturally talented, Floyd or James Toney. A lot of people saying Toney point out how effortlessly perfect he was with his skills and just seemed to be able to do things that other fighters have to drill for years without much work. I also know a lot of trainers and old timers seem to really love Toney. This got me thinking of another fighter who is really liked by old timers and often described as text book perfect Harold Johnson. so... who do you think would win if they fought. Both fighters fought middle to heavy (though Johnson career high was 181 I think vs like 250 for Toney) but lets say the fight is Light Heavy or Cruiser, who do you think wins or who do you think is more likely to win if you think its close?
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Harold Johnson was more perfect than Toney IMO.
     
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  3. viperzero

    viperzero Member Full Member

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    Thats my feeling as well but who do you think would win?
     
  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Tough call ..Harold had the clasic style down near perfect while Toney did the same with an aggressive shoulder roll style. I prefer Toney but he would have to be in tip top condition to beat Harold.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I think Harolds jab would get him home on points.
     
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  6. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Toney was somewhat similar to Archie Moore, the same guy who pretty much had Johnson’s number. Although Toney was nowhere near as powerful as Moore.
    I honestly think this could be a close, competitive fight with Johnson edging Toney due to his piston jab.
     
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