Harry Greb: Great, but the evidence is poor.

correct.. Greb suffered from a detached retina not blindness

 

I want to see this list of 20 boxers who are greater than greb. Please list criteria.

If criteria is "looks unbeatable on film" then I hope to god you have jones and whittaker in your top 5. If your criteria consists of anything deeper than aesthetics then greb is in anyones top 20.

 

We'll let the posters who want to look into it decide for themselves. Seems you've been run out of this thread. What happened?

 

no your lying again.. i aint been run out of a single thread in my life and certainly not this one. you must think that ridicule from those who cannot debate like yourself means i have been run-out yet the truth is those who cannot debate and use ridicule are the ones who have lost the debate and have ran off name calling

 

quarry your a bizzare cat
u just got very nailed on your 5'6 claim

 

criteria is what i listed in my other thread of how a boxer is not ranked solely by resume

 

Liebling never saw Greb, and I doubt Arcel did.

 

show me....

 

oh sorry i forgot no one ever managed to see Greb fight and live to tell the tale :good

 

arcel saw dems vs john lester johnson in 16
y do u doubt he saw greb?? we gotta nuf straingness on this thred as is

 

Than why haven't you confronted Burt and SLAKKA about their assertions that you lied by claiming the historians you named thought little of Greb? All you're doing now is trolling. Thats the same thing as being run out. :hey

 

You named three boxing scribes , who you said ,"saw Greb fight from ringside",I pointed out that two of them did not, then you made a sarcastic puerile retort.
Do you have anger management issues?

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Subject: THE MEN HARRY GREB DEFEATED

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Jack Blackburn-Famous as Joe Louis' trainer. Historian Charlie Rose named him the #3 lightweight of all time.

Al McCoy-One time undisputed middleweight champ.

George Chip-One time undisputed middleweight champ.

Jack Dillon-One time undisputed light heavy king. Nat Fleischer had him as #3 light heavy of all time. Charley Rose had him #2.

Battling Levinsky-One time undisputed light heavy king. Fleischer had him #6 LHW of all time.

Mike McTigue-One time undisputed LHW king. Rose ranked him #10 all-time.

Billy Miske-HOF heavyweight who challenged Dempsey for title.

Bill Brennan-Challenged Dempsey for heavyweight crown.

Mike Gibbons-#4 ranked middle all-time by Rose, #9 by Fleischer.

Tommy Gibbons-#5 LHW by Rose, #8 by Fleischer.

Kid Norfolk-HOF light heavyweight

Bob Moha-One time LHW champ.

Gene Tunney-One time heavyweight champ. Herb Goldman ranks him #1 all-time LHW.

Tommy Loughran-One time LHW champ. Fleischer ranks him #4, Rose #4 light heavy.

Johnny Wilson-Reigning middleweight champion.

Tiger Flowers-One time middleweight champ. Rose ranks him #5, Goldman #12.

Mickey Walker-One time welter and middle champ. Rose ranks him #3 middle, Fleischer #4 and Goldman #4.

Maxie Rosenbloom-One time undisputed light heavy champ.


There are 19 men on this list who were, in a time of eight divisions and one belt per, champions, or, highly rated by historians or HOFers. In almost all cases it is at least 2 of 3.

Harry Greb defeated these men a total of 40 times.

Ring ratings began in 1924. From 1924 until his 1926 retirement, Greb defeated another eight ranked men who were not on the above list.

Seriously, is the lack of film all that important?

 

Originally Posted by quarry
Dempsey would also murder Greb.. don't tell me your know going to tell us that 5`6in Greb the powder-puff puncher is going to beat 6`7ins Terrell & 6`4ins Cleveland Williams or Floyd Patterson & Sonny Liston ffs your deluded mate.. if Greb was all you try to make him out to be then every boxing historian & boxing fan worldwide would be singing his praises in similar fashion to you and McGrain. but the reality is that Greb was not "Superman" and was licked thrice by Gene Tunney before Tunney even reached his prime as a fighter.