Harry Greb is just an old glorified version of Joe Calzaghe.

tick one please.

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Don't be _ucken Stupid!!!

 

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Ill give you all the reason, you'll just will ignore it.

Good luck discrediting Muhammad Alis evaluation of Gene Tunney
"Whoa...who is the guy?? Hes a white Ali. Today he'd be champ"
Then spotlight Greb vs Tunney 4 Cleveland.
Greb 30yrs old half blind vs much bigger Gene in his freekin prime and WINNING THAT FIGHT!!

 

woah, the fight was filmed? never heard that before, heard his 5 lamotta and fight with Bell was filmed but not this. wish it still existed:-(... might be able to solve the mystery of the "long count" in the fight then.

 

When interviewed Levine told a story of having this film then one day finding it disintegrated...sniff sniff.

 

aw man... maybe the promoter or family of the promoter has the fight or somethin? just another story of a great fight being lost. i once heard klompton saying Conn asked Mike Jacobs if hed could have the whole 13rds of his fight with Louis. MJ said no...

But, levine-robinson, it was a brutal fight, no? A banger like levine ("hardest hitter" said Robinson) and a skilled boxing master like sugar-man in his prime. that would be something.

 

Well smaller Welter Robbie, putting himself into Middleweight harms way time and time again as a matter of course, paid the price but i don't believe in any long count.
Please google for more over on boxrec.

 

oh sure, that too. levine was a tune-up for bell. some tune-up fight, one of the hardest MW punchers of the time, (think lamotta agreed with SRR about levine- which says a lot), dont get that no more, what a fighter, SRR.

 

SRL and Angelo Dundee both agreed "No more middleweights"
after a hellva struggle vs Marcus Gerardo. This was during SRL march to his first title shot vs Benetez. Came undone later but Sugar had grown a bit by then. SRR did it as a matter of course.

 

It's far more "certain" that if he wasn't so great and couldn't punch properly, then opponents would've walked right through him.

 

"SRL and Angelo Dundee both agreed "No more middleweights"
after a hellva struggle vs Marcus Gerardo. This was during SRL march to his first title shot vs Benetez. Came undone later but Sugar had grown a bit by then. SRR did it as a matter of course."


yup, srl wasnt the stone cold killer srr was (as JG puts it), but a ww that takes on guy like mw lamotta 5x is pretty tough to beat.

 

Slaaka, believe the story of the "long count" for it is true. I remember reading the details of that fight in 1946, the day after the bout. In the 9th round I believe Artie Levine [who I saw a few times] dropped the WW Robinson with a powerful punch. Robinson was stretched out on his back, and the referee instead of starting the count, "walked" Artie Levine to a neutral corner, than walked back to the prostrate Robinson ,and then started the COUNT. Many seconds elapsed,and the reporter said Robinson was down for 17 seconds before getting up. About 17 seconds for Robby to beat the count...And S, a few days later,at Stillman's gym where I went most every week, I heard fans, trainers, discussing the raw deal Artie Levine got. Levine was about 10 pounds heavier than Robby, but he
truly deserved that KO. About 7 months later Robinson tackled a better MW Georgie Abrams, and was given a disputed decision over the wily Abrams...
I met Artie Levine when he was retired in a restaurant, shook his hand, but never mentioned the Robinson "long count"....Cheers.

 

sorry burt that fight was in Cleveland
i didn't see it
you didn't see it railbirds at stillmans dident see it
Cleveland claimed Levine as their hometown boy and didn't write up any long count.
google boxrec levine robinson we settled this hash!!
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...73,3422807&dq=artie+ray-robinson+levine&hl=en
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...95,3258971&dq=artie+ray-robinson+levine&hl=en

 

First of all, Greb beat Tunney who was champion at the time Greb was 160 pounds. Greb is the only loss on Tunney's record! Calzaghe can do that? Greb had hundreds of fights as a pro, he had close to 300 bouts and died at the age of 32? Who was the harder worker.

Look it up your boy Dempsey was scared to fight Greb, he declined a offer to get in the ring with him. Dempsey knew Greb's style was to much for him, they were sparring partners at one point.

 

Joe Calzaghe was probably more like Greb stylisticaly than any other fighter in recent years.

To say anything more than that when comparing them would be a masive overreach.