Harry Greb is just an old glorified version of Joe Calzaghe.

And since Greb won fights far more than just "sometimes," that completely undermines your point.

He had stoppage wins over rated MW Frank Moody, ex-#1 HW contender Gunboat Smith, and Buck Crouse, and possibly Frank Mantell as well.

 

By all accounts Harry Greb should have won his bloody victory, by tko over the 12-15 pound heavier Gene Tunney in May,1922 at MSG. My dad,a young man who saw that bout,would relate to me that the MSG fans were screaming at the referee to stop the bout,as they feared Tunney might be permanently injured...Tunney, fighting in front of his Greenwich Village, NY fans insisted they let him continue to the end... Yes Greb was not a one-punch power hitter,as he was never set in one spot for leverage, but he was described as a swarm of bees let loose from their hives. Frank Moody
one of his battered victims described that " I felt that the ceiling opened up and a barrage of gloves, came crashing down on me ". Harry had the most unique boxing style ever !

 

And was twice stopped and was also beaten by Tiger Flowers whom a blind , shot and fattt Sam Langford KO @ 1rd . And had a few more losses .
D thing is that he rarely fought any dangerous punchers , and Tunney did beat him most of d times , not that Tunney was such a big puncher .
So his ass rarely needed 2b saved because his opposition , while better than Calzaghe's , is extremely overrated and f u take average quality per number of fights , Greb gets a low rate even if higher than Calzaghe who is 1 of d most pathetic in this aspect . So greb's opposition was better than Calzaghe's . It doesn't make it good , with d exceptions of Tunney and maybe 1 or 2 more fighters at best .

Top 100 ATGs 4 sure , Ring Magazine must have had them in its top 10 in 1 point of time . D amazing fighters that they were , i once saw a young Buck Crouse flooring a prime Gene Tunney 4 a count of '8' in a post fight exhibition along with my dad . My dad always kept telling me (@ d late 50's)
: "if 'ole Crouse was still young 2day , he would've wiped every1 outtta contention and in2 retirement" .

 

atschatschatschatschatschatschatsch How does one answer this ???

 

Well, here is a classic post on the Classic Forum ... atsch

 

This thread is clearly just made made by a Calzaghe hater

He#s just wound everyone up and now is just sitting back watching everyone now go overboard in slagging of Calzaghe

Would be funny if everyone just voted TRUE to make a mockery of the poll and thread!

 

Gotta pull a McEnroe on this one! You cannot be serious?

Greb came from an era when a fighter would fight 15 rounds and then go out to a bar for a few drinks and a fight a few more rounds.

 

How are you so certain if you don't know either? Oh right you don't need to be certain since you are just a troll. My bad forgot.

 

Which is 0.66% of his known fights.

Who is a HOFer, and who Greb had also previously beaten.

Out of a few HUNDRED fights.

If you consider regular fights (at least once or twice a year) against the likes of Jack Dillon, Gene Tunney, Mickey Walker, Billy Miske, Bill Brennan, Tom Gibbons, Kid Norfolk, George Chip, Gunboat Smith, Romero Rojas, Mike O'Dowd, Eddie McGoorty, Jack Renault, Joe Chip, Al McCoy, Frank Moody, Buck Crouse, etc., etc. as "rarely," then yes.

Yes he was - his KO wins over Gibbons, Madden, Carpentier, and Heeney all proved that.

They had Moody in there, yes.

Seeing as he actually did beat top fighters in his era like George Chip, Twin Sullivan, and Dave Smith, then yes, it's not unreasonable at all that he would've beaten some top fighters in other eras as well.

 

Which were usually short fights . I think his average fight was shorter than d average Sanderline Williams fight , and not because Greb made quick work out of any1 .

A HOFer just like Terry Norris is . I actually rank Terry Norris higher than him .

Which used 2b short in average .

At least 1 of them monster punchers stopped Greb , 1 of d Chips i think .
Dad told me that a teenage Eddie McGoorty used Mount Rushmore as a heavy bag and caused 1 of d biggest earthquakes @ d 20th century which prompted d authorities 2 abolish his training regime .

So d rest of them ATGs u mentioned didn't even make d top of d crop of their own time , I didn't even expect it from u .

Dad had a reality sized statue of Dave Smith standing next 2 his bed .
Whenever he felt like it , he'd take d statue 2 hear that transistor machine screaming those fight and used 2 tell it (and myself) : If I could only do a Jepetto on this , we wouldn't have been so anxious 2 know who d victor is .