Harry Greb vs Bernard Hopkins? who wins

I'm some fan huh? I haven't picked him to actually win a fight since Gavin Rees.

I only defend him because he gets a lot of unwarranted hate. There are plenty of things to crap on him about. Pick one of those things

 

Hopkins wins in the modern era, Greb's commitment to punching at such high volume would give Bernard plenty of opportunities to make it look like he was flailing wildly at the air. Any punches that landed BHOP would complain were illegal, then he might get stopped playing for a point deduction or DQ. But otherwise I think Hopkins would make him look bad and then give him a lecture about his relative white vs. black racial fighting and movement attributes. Prediction: Hopkins thinks Greb isn't slick enough. Not like a black fighter

 

I don't know who'll win, but to those picking Greb to win just because to be cool, you should know this is the closest thing we have to footage of him fighting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMA6Pd6tT3Q

 

Only thing that is pu ussy is you :huh

 

:deal

 

No footage of Greb...

Despite the era differences being too wide to properly size up, as usual in fantasy H2H talk, I will go out and "pick" Hopkins.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Most people say Sugar Ray is the GOAT

But if there's ONE other guy, in the entire history of boxing, who seems to have a decent shout, it's Greb

Greb would beat the utter **** outta the crybaby jailhouse racist

 

Nard couldn't beat Jermain Taylor in two tries and he needed plenty of dirty tricks to survive the Calzaghe fight because Joe carried him too fast. He never considered giving Glenn Johnson a rematch. Greb's strengths were Bernard's weakness.

And for those saying this mythical fight would be prime vs prime, consider Greb fought the final quarter of his career (as the champion with some of his biggest fights) completely blind in one eye (courtesy of black LHW Kid Norfolk) and that he only lost his title to a guy who would probably beat Hopkins as well in Tiger Flowers, even then by close decision.

Nard was a great MW champion, but he still takes a back seat to more recent MW's than Greb like Monzon and Griffith. I don't see Nard holding up against a prime Carter either. The majority of his MW career was against opposition weaker than today's MW division and while he's far more talented, what he did for most of his MW career wasn't much different than what guys like Sturm and Ottke were doing. Staying at one weight class, not unifying, and taking on mando's (some which were very undeserving).

A major difference between today's greats and past greats is that today's are business driven and opponent selection is more of an opportunistic process than back in the previous generation when if you wanted to get paid more you had to fight the best at their best.

 

Brilliant post.

 

In that sparring clip granted only short he looked quite wild to me, people just say Greb for old time sake, i hate this **** old great fighters were supermen they would all KO any modern fighters its like theirs been no top 20 ATG since Leonard in some people's minds its ******ed. Amazing to think Pacquiao and Mayweather don't make some people's top 20 when Pac is an 8 division champion, Mayweather is undefeated and easily top 3 defensive boxer ever yet of course they both loose to about 40 past boxers judging by some posters on ESB

 

That's all he needs to do to win Hopkins can't deal with movement.:deal

 

Greb would win by decision TKO or KO......................

 

Greb was competing in an era when contemporaneous athletic records in sports much easier to measure (e.g. swimming, weight lifting, running) have all been utterly shattered.

 

you got me there