Harry Greb vs Bob Satterfield with modern gloves

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  1. RockyValdez

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    Unfortunately for all of your pointless conjecture we only have what actually happened to go on. What happened was Greb amassed one of the greatest CVs in the history of the sport and you cant seem to escape that fact.
     
  2. Mendoza

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    I'd agree with this, with an * Satterfield was a dangerous puncher, and heavier. He could win, but I tend to doubt he would.

    Fighters can be a one trick pony, but if the trick is power, it's quite a trick. Satterfield was aggressive, and far from slow. Yes, he had a glass jaw but that was at heavyweight. Greb was a weaker puncher at middle weight.
     
  3. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah many alts, trying to score points lets examine this closely. Satterfield had 43 fites and Johnson 39 fights. Johnson was 23 and 3 days after the fight he was 24, just about in his prime.
    You're right Satterfield was robbing the cradle taking advantage of a novice.
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    Your arguments are laughable haha
     
  4. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes but many alts nobody but nobody was arguing that point so why do you go back to it maybe cos you don't have anything else to say. hmmm....
    Maybe you don't understand that this thread was basically what would happen if they fought type thread not what actually happened, I guess you are lost when you don't have articles to refer to. So sad, cos with all that reading you still don't understand anything.
     
  5. RockyValdez

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    Yes, you asked what would happen. I answered you. You didn't like my answer. If you don't like the answers you are given then I suggest you either don't ask ignorant questions or confine your conversations to people who only agree with your admitted uneducated narrow trolling view.

    You obviously wanted a bunch of people to come on here and pretend that a mediocre guy like Satterfield would be a bridge too far for Greb. He wouldn't. He didn't bring a single thing to the table that Greb hadn't seen or couldn't deal with. Harry Greb fought more heavyweights than Satterfield did. He fought more light heavyweights than Satterfield did. He beat more heavyweights and light heavyweights than Satterfield did and lost to less than light heavyweights and heavyweights than Satterfield. He beat better heavyweights and light heavyweights than Satterfield and was never knocked out by a heavyweight or light heavyweight as Satterfield was numerous times. He fought people who were better boxers, more durable, had better stamina, more experience, hit as hard, faster, smarter, classier, more poised and generally greater than Bob Satterfield ever dreamed of being on his best day. Did Greb ever lose to anyone as bad as Bob Satterfield from the time he entered his prime to well after he was blind and past his prime? I think not. The only thing you can say is that Bob Satterfield could punch. Well, guess what? Bob Satterfield met plenty of people he couldn't knock out and none of them were as great as Greb.

    If the only thing you can hope is that you plan to land a lucky punch against Greb then I think we can put your stupid question to bed.

    Is that clear enough for you? You wanted an opinion and you got it. Take it for its worth or don't take it at all. I don't care. Im not the one who took the time out of his day to ask the question and then complained when he got an answer he didn't like.
     
  6. mcvey

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    This really should be the end of the conversation.:lol::good
     
  7. mcvey

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    Satterfield would be too big for Greb but all the other heavies he fought weren't?
    Yeah makes sense.:think
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Ouch.

    Great post.
     
  9. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  11. dempsey1234

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    ah but it's not:good
     
  12. mcvey

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    Sorry mate nothing personal ,but you just got owned.:scaredas:
     
  13. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, you asked what would happen. I answered you. You didn't like my answer.
    In the same vein you don’t like my answers many alts cos I call you them.
    I posed a question you answer, I replied to your answer, that’s how things work in a discussion, I am not a mindless lemming who takes your answers as a voice from God.
    If you don't like the answers you are given then I suggest you either don't ask ignorant questions or confine your conversations to people who only agree with your admitted uneducated narrow trolling view.
    If my ignorant questions are so ignorant then why do you reply?

    You obviously wanted a bunch of people to come on here and pretend that a mediocre guy like Satterfield would be a bridge too far for Greb.
    I didn’t pretend anything it was just a fantasy fight you assume too much first off Satterfield was not mediocre second he is on everybody all time greatest punchers list. Where’s ko?
    Maybe you should refresh your mind, the thread is “Harry Greb vs Bob Satterfield with modern gloves. FYI this is a discussion, I didn’t say Satterfield would kill Grab, I posed a question, also knowing that Grab never fought anybody like Satterfield or a puncher like Satterfield. I thought it was an interesting premise. A hurricane puncher vs a volume puncher, now whats wrong with that?
    I even posted what each would bring to the fight, and this was based of seeing the clip of greb, and reading the bout description in countless articles. Greb’s: Speed, throws cluster featherduster punches, never lets the opponent set himself, bounces around like a Mexican jumping bean hard to catch.
    Satterfield, ATG puncher, aggressive puncher, suicidal attack, never sets himself, no defense, style leaves himself open for counters which is one of reasons he gets flattened. I even gave an example how he might come at Greb. The Charles fight gives you an idea how hard he comes. Before the Lemmings attack, I know Charles fought nothing like Greb.
    He wouldn't. He didn't bring a single thing to the table that Greb hadn't seen or couldn't deal with. Harry Greb fought more heavyweights than Satterfield did.
    He fought more light heavyweights than Satterfield did. He beat more heavyweights and light heavyweights than Satterfield did and lost to less than light heavyweights and heavyweights than Satterfield.
    I know ko, gibbons, miske, Tunney, not one of them punched as hard or came as hard as Satterfield. The difference is he had the smaller gloves, and could get away with more in that time. Since I did specify modern gloves we have to factor everything. Satterfield was not a slow HW, and I also was specific in weight 180.
    He beat better heavyweights and light heavyweights than Satterfield and was never knocked out by a heavyweight or light heavyweight as Satterfield was numerous times. He fought people who were better boxers, more durable, had better stamina, more experience, hit as hard, faster, smarter, classier, more poised and generally greater than Bob Satterfield ever dreamed of being on his best day.
    This is all fine and good but the thread isn’t about who he fought it’s a fantasy fight. A who do you think is going to win fight and how. You think Grab would win wonderful, my position is I believe Grab would would have had a hard time in the first few rds. Maybe over the long haul who knows?
    If you know anything about fighters then you would know a fighter who fights like Grab is difficult to fight, but so was Satterfield, cos he was hard to time, you had to weather the storm and catch him.
    Did Greb ever lose to anyone as bad as Bob Satterfield from the time he entered his prime to well after he was blind and past his prime? I think not. The only thing you can say is that Bob Satterfield could punch. Well, guess what? Bob Satterfield met plenty of people he couldn't knock out and none of them were as great as Greb.
    If the only thing you can hope is that you plan to land a lucky punch against Greb then I think we can put your stupid question to bed.
    Again Grab was not a defensive genius he got hit and hurt plenty of times, so there was always a punchers chance. You are forgetting that Grab was really a MW. Bottomline he didn’t fight anybody like Satterfield and it’s Satterfield we are talking about

    Is it stupid cos you and the Lemmings thinks it’s stupid, here is the other stupid thing, they wouldn’t have fought in the modern era.
    Its no more stupid than any other fantasy fight

    Is that clear enough for you? You wanted an opinion and you got it. Take it for its worth or don't take it at all. I don't care. Im not the one who took the time out of his day to ask the question and then complained when he got an answer he didn't like.
    Yeah but you took the time of day to answer the question and under many alts, really if you must know it was all I was after, and to ask you a question you never answered, the simple question on the “laughable” Dempsey contract and the more laughable Pitts fight. I have asked time and again and you ignore it why? You see I take the time to answer yours.
     
  14. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again in your eyes, this wasn't a competition, it was a fantasy fight with opposing views. All that many alts said is not news. It's kind of childish to keep score don't you think with all due respect. It was an interesting premise to me. That's all it was an aggressive puncher vs a Mexican jumping bean. :rasta
     
  15. Seamus

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    Sometimes, bro, it's best just to walk away, lick your wounds and live to fight another day.