Bases on what? Other than the fact that escalates Grebs ranking. I can't see either beating a Prime Baer or dropping a prime Louis.
And this is the thing, boxing is about styles, and styles make fights. Every boxer has their weaknesses and without viewing film of them it is hard to analysis how they match up
Thats the point of my post. What footage of Greb doz Tommy need??? Im trying to make this easy for you boys!
Thats his opinion, which is fine but it doesn't necessarily make it so. And you have to question his motives, allot of fighters play the 'man I beat is the best fighter ever' game to play themselves up. And wasn't Loughran Greb's friend?
Largely based on footage, for starters. The Braddock-Baer fight is one of the worst fights I've seen, and that's Braddock's crowning achievement. Gibbons was definitely better. Louis was all reckless, wide open and off-balance when Braddock tagged him. All credit for Braddock taking his opportunity and landing the shot, and he obviously had a bit of power, but one punch doesn't eradicate his long patchy record and general lack of quality. Gibbons only lost to the best, and consistently beat ordinary fighters and good solid contenders. Braddock lost to all and sundry. Brennan looks better on film than Braddock too, in my opinion, but I wont argue the point that he was much better. On a par at least. Both Gibbons and Brennan were as durable as Braddock too.
Friendship between Tommy and Harry? Never heard of it. If u wanna switch over to Sharkey and Mclarnin calling Harry the greatest they ever saw, please proceed. And Walker caught a hellva spanking from 30 something semi sightless Greb and held him in the same praze till his last days. Disregard lack of footage in all above cases.
Christ, if I were a bookie, I'd grant 42 to 1 odds to any Greb jocksniffer who wants to bet on Harry to beat either "Dempsey or Louis" in a time machine... My choice and guess would be that Dempsey and Louis have fun ripping Greb's head off and crapping down his throat before wasting the over-matched middleweight champion inside of 10 rds... MR.BILL
And so did Mickey Walker, call Harry Greb, the greatest fighter He ever fought. Just about every foe of Greb ,considered Harry the"greatest fighter they ever fought " ! A tidbit- I, as a child used to hear Sam Taub, on my new little radio every Sunday afternoon. Sam Taub was the finest boxing announcer on radio for many years. That Sunday he interviewed Maxie Rosenbloom,and Taub asked Maxie this question that i remember vividly, lo these many years. "Maxie, you had 300 bouts against the best fighters ever. Who was the best fighter you ever fought ?"..Rosenbloom without hesitation answered " Harry Greb ". First time I ever heard the name of Harry Greb ! I was very impressed, and asked my dad, who was Harry Greb ? My dad gushed about Greb, and about the time my dad saw Greb beat the daylights out of Gene Tunney at MSG in 1922. My dad who saw all the greats after including a prime Ray Robinson [with me] ,always insisted no one he saw since then, would have beaten Greb @ equal or near weights...And so do I. For what it's worth !!!
122 fights in like 4 years is ****ing crazy but if u look at the comp it isnt that good. Good but not liek crazy he fought a couple guys with records like 0-1 2-5 6-9 1-3 etc.. and u think he can fight HW warrior STUPUD ****ING THREND HE IS WAY OVER RATED. this is like syaing tye fields is amzing cause of his record u know
I think that he would have a shot at beating anybody under 210lbs to be honest. We don't need to debate whether he could beat Genbe Tunney because he did. It is verry plausible that he could have beaten anybody between Tunney and Louis. Even against sombody like Dempsey or Louis you could never count him out.