Harry Greb vs Reggie Johnson

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    He is indisputably the earlier fighter, though. No matter what kind of mathematical gymnastics someone tries, there's no conceivable way to contest the fact that Greb was born a long time before Reggie Johnson.

    Greb crushes Reggie.
     
  2. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's no way to tell how Greb would do against anyone, since there is no footage of him.
     
  3. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most likely. We badly need footage of Greb to see how he fought, so we can evaluate his chances in fantasy fights
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Oh absolutely, there's such a big gap between the two.
    I have heard, some fighter s that came out of black and white into color, actually suffered a shock to the system. Suddenly seeing the colour of certain shorts and red blood, could bewilder him and have him lose the fight. I belive this happened to Liston. He much preferred the old grainy, black and white affect to the dazzling bright colors of the 1960 s.
    So yes, it works both ways.
     
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  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Hogwash! Fighting monochrome opponents forces you to learn to detect subtle shifts in movement, hampered as you are by the limited color palette.

    And the overplayed black-and-white-to-color transition theory is basically a myth. Judy Garland and the entire cast of the Wizard of Oz made the transition on camera without so much as a flinch, and they were just a bunch of actors, FFS.
     
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  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Reggie's facing a 70+ year chronological disadvantage, though. That's absolutely massive in a sport like this.
     
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Hey, I'm no expert but I was told the tale of Sonny Liston by a man who knew his great, second cousin s neighbor s doctor.!!
    So I'm pretty sure that Liston struggled with bright colors!
     
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  8. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Oh! I stand corrected, then.
     
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    Judy actually began drinking heavily not long after that film.
    Maybe black and white to colour not as easy peasy as believed good sir.
     
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  10. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    No problem buddy, we all make mistakes..
     
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  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    That's true. I was overlooking the longer-term health effects of color transition. Not quite as bad as the obesity that the internet streaming transition creates in heavies. But definitely food for thought.
     
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  12. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :bump
     
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  13. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Reggie Johnson very easily
     
  14. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Oh yes, the obesity question. Certainly something for the more learned poster s on here my friend.
    What a fascinating subject!