Harry Wiley Sr (SRR trainer) taught Ali how to roll right hands with his shoulder (Vs Ellis/Mathis)

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  1. TheEliteMaster100

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    Harry Wiley was in Sonny Bank's corner when he floored young Cassius Clay, interesting trivia.

    'Wiley was in Bank’s corner that night, and while Sonny lost to Clay, with hindsight Banks actually did very well indeed by being the first of only four fighters to ever put Clay/Ali on the canvas and he did it in the first round.'

    'When Harry was asked after the fight what the turning point was and where it when wrong for Sonny, Wiley said, “Things just went sour gradually all at once. You got to respect a boxer. He’ll pick you and peck you, peck you and pick you, until you don’t know where you are.”'

    'Harry was very impressed with young Clay that night and it turns out that Clay was also impressed with Harry as a trainer because after trying to get Harry into his camp a few times over the years, he finally did as head trainer for the Jimmy Ellis fight as Angelo Dundee was in Ellis’s corner.'

    'Ali sang Wiley’s praises after that fight, in fact at the post fight press conference Dundee said Ali looked like his old self to which Ali replied, “That’s because I had Harry Wiley.”

    'Wiley was proof that you can in fact teach an old dog new tricks because during a TV interview Ali had with Howard Cosell, Cosell mentioned Ali rolling his shoulder to avoid the right hand. Ali stated that Wiley taught him that as well as a few other things. Ali was so impressed with Wiley as a trainer he told Cosell that he would be keeping Harry in his corner for all his fights and was true to his word as Wiley and Dundee where both in Ali’s corner for his very next fight against Buster Mathis.'

    'Sadly that was to be the last fight that Harry cornered and he just missed out on the ride that was the second coming of Ali as Wiley passed away just over two months later on February 7, 1972.'

    https://clutchcityboxing.com/harry-wiley-one-of-the-best-boxing-trainers-ever/


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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Ali got caught with a lot of jabs here and got caught with counter jabs as he jabbed that`s how Norton beat him in his first fight against Ali, also Muhammad missed a lot of shots in this bout.
     
  3. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Harry Wiley was a hugely respected Trainer in the 1950's and 60's. Billy Walker was sent to him in New York at great cost. Even Wiley couldn't teach Billy to defend himself !
     
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