Harry Wills fought 43 fights from 1919 to 1925 who really had a chance

43 fights during 1919-1925 fought nobody that had even a slight chance of beating him. The McVea fight, the firpo fight blew whatever chance he had. Then "Honest" Harry Wills, went on his traveling road show, and defrauded honest boxing fan's all over the country in glorified pitty pat exhibitions, billed as fights, and getting tossed. Please your hero has many, many holes in his resume.

 

43 fights during 1919-1925 fought nobody that had even a slight chance of beating him. The McVea fight, the firpo fight blew whatever chance he had. Then "Honest" Harry Wills, went on his traveling road show, and defrauded honest boxing fan's all over the country in glorified pitty pat exhibitions, billed as fights, and getting tossed. Please your hero has many, many holes in his resume.

 

43 fights during 1919-1925 fought nobody that had even a slight chance of beating him. The McVea fight, the firpo fight blew whatever chance he had. Then "Honest" Harry Wills, went on his traveling road show, and defrauded honest boxing fan's all over the country in glorified pitty pat exhibitions, billed as fights, and getting tossed. Please your hero has many, many holes in his resume.

 

Ok, but you must remember, this is what he saw, the rest of the people saw an exciting fight nitpicking later does not diminish that it was a fight for the ages. Why not admire what Dempsey did, watch those short digs to Firpo's body that dropped Firpo, who to my knowledge had never been down, there is also a hellacious right to the body as Firpo is coming in.

If you ever imagined what Dempsey was like in a pickup barroom fight here is as close as you ever going to see.

Besides this wasn't a boxing match it was a fight. A rare opportunity to see two guys meeting head on. The closest we come to that is the Hagler- Hearns fight.

Enjoy stop nitpicking. I could nitpick by mentioning the tape shows one punch not three but I wont, uh I just did, see it's meaningless.

I see he avoided saying that it was a push that sent him through the ropes.

You know its a real shame that we come on here and tear apart two fine human beings both Wills and Dempsey were decent people, not on here people with a hatred for Dempsey attack anybody that has a positive view of him. Like myself, I never til now had a ill word to say about Wills, now, in defense of Dempsey I have to breakdown Wills.

 

Ed, feel free to drop him 50 places nobody will say anything, you know why? It's only your opinion. It's clear anything Wills done is great, everything Dempsey is not as good. You will grab at anything to make a point, take things out of context, out of sequence, it doesnt matter to you. For example the John Lester Johnson fight, so please you have my permission to drop Dempsey to the last spot. Do you know what will happen when you publish "Ed's Top ___, the sun will still come up and nobody will agree with it, cos ITS ONLY YOUR OPINION. Sometimes I feel like a bully answering your posts cos you are trying to argue something you know little about.

What do you think that says? That Wills, would have been an underdog in the betting, if they had fought. Wills HIMSELF BLEW his shot. He had to go 12 boring rds against a fat, out of condition Firpo and Dempsey did what to Firpo? Oh, yes the only thing you see is that, Dempsey was pushed out of the ring and knocked down. FYI, Dempsey took chances, cos he had ba-lls, and wasn't afraid to mix it up with a bigger powerful guy. Unlike your hero, who "fought" a wrestling match. A fight that people til this day still look at as one of the most exciting fights. There have been reams of articles written, on that fight. Wills, on the other hand went 12 mediocre rds, a writer was so impressed by Wills great performance that he wrote the following:


"After the first two rds the FIGHT was a good wrestling match. They hugged and mauled other and did little else."

"taking it by and large it was the sorriest contest for a top price of $27.50, including war tax of 10% that was ever staged or probably ever will be staged"

in Wills own words:

"I would have knocked Firpo out if Firpo would have opened more instead of fighting continually at close"

The reporter commenting on this quote by your hero.

"Although it seemed to observers that Wills was DOING MOST OF THE HOLDING."


Yessir, your hero is blaming Firpo cos he wouldn't let him hit him. Where was Wills tremendous speed, his terrific power, his
great skill, that blazing jab and great left hook????

Now compare, since you are great at that, the Wills performance against fattie Firpo and Dempsey's performance, against a trim, in condition Firpo. ITS NO CONTEST.

If you really look at Wills record, he done more pre Dempsey, so why not dump on Willard.

You know why you wont, cos Willard doesnt carry the weight Dempsey does.

Dempsey didn't take advantage of the fan's like Wills did, and defrauded the fan's by going through the motions, Dempsey made his fights exciting Wills on the other hand made his fights boring

 

Mc, Let me ask you a question, what is a journeyman? In many field, such as a journeyman plumber, a journeyman electrician? They are guys who have some knowledge but are not masters of their fields. Tell me what was Wills the master of? The visual evidence points to Wills not being the master of anything besides holding and hitting, hitting on the break, wrestling. If Wills had any standout skills don't you think those clips from 1924 would show something of them? Yes he was not the same as when he was younger, but skill and experience are still there. Maybe you could say he wasn't as fast or that his reflexes weren't what they used to be, but skills they stay with you, if you had a jab, it
might not be as fast but you would still have it. Wills showed the same style and inclination to grab, hit and hold, in both fights that are on youtube. That's got to tell you something.

With Greb you could say whatever cos there is no visual evidence, not so with Wills.

Wills had a chance to prove his worth with a gimme and he failed miserably, tell me it's not true, tell me he looked good and based only on that fight that he didn't blow it.