Harry Wills v Tommy Gibbons15rds?

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  1. janitor

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  2. mcvey

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    Put your hands down "Old Fogey," I was just commenting. Jeez!
     
  3. dempsey1234

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  4. mcvey

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    That seems to indicate I am wrong and that the Wills V Weinert fight is the main event The upset was 7ko % Shade stopping Slattery.


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  5. Senya13

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    1925-07-03 The New York Times (page 8 )
    The controversy over whether the Greb-Walker or Wills-Weinert fight was the principal event in last night's Italian Fund card was settled yesterday afternoon by the State Athletic Commission at its meeting when it decided that the championship feature of the Greb-Walker contest automatically gave preference to it.

    Boxers have temperament as well as opera singers and at one time the question threatened to assume serious proportions for Impresario Fugazy. Harry Wills insisted that his bout with Weinert was the main attraction, but the legal arm of the commission waved his contention aside.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Thanks very much for clearing this up S
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  7. dempsey1234

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    Great work Senya:good and much appreciated. You have the patience of a saint.
     
  8. edward morbius

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    A poster isn't an official anything. It is an advertisement for the fight.

    It is interesting that Wills-Weinert gets pride of place in the advertisement.

    It is sort of like movie billings. An actor might have had a clause in his contract mandating top billing in the movie credits.

    But in the advertisements the top position went to whomever the public was interested the most in. A good example would be This Gun for Hire (1942) in which Alan Ladd is fourth billed in the credits but often led the advertising. Same with Boris Karloff in Frankenstein.
     
  9. edward morbius

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    Thanks,

    although it is interesting that this just got into the paper the day after the fight, after the tickets were sold.
     
  10. Senya13

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    Usually, main event is the last bout on the card. In this case Wills and Weinert fought before Greb and Walker. But probably the promoter somehow persuaded Wills that his bout was more important than the one that ended the night, reagrdless what the commission said.
     
  11. McGrain

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    Makes what offical?
     
  12. edward morbius

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    It appears to me that Kearns probably took it to the commission as he was the manager of Walker,

    The commission made a legal decision,

    but off that poster the pre-fight build-up apparently gave pride of place to the Wills-Weinert fight.

    Frankly, not a very important subject, but I thought the poster was interesting.
     
  13. dempsey1234

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    Good point, posters are an advertising medium and they usually target a particular segment of the population. By stating it was an eliminator it probably built up more interest for that segment.
    I find it strange that the Greb - Walker, which today would be equivalent to GGG - Canelo fight. That was a major fight in those days. I wonder if there was more then one poster made for the fight.

    I know in todays boxing world promoters love to advertise a championship fight or an eliminator, cos they feel people respond building interest and by buying tickets.
     
  14. dempsey1234

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    We were talking about the eliminator? Since I posted that I see that it was the NY commission. So is that a point of contention with you?
     
  15. McGrain

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    There is no point of contention with me; Edward asked me to post the poster and i did.