Harry Wills v Tommy Gibbons15rds?

Yes a gimme in Tubby Firpo, Firpo was not the same Firpo as when he fought Dempsey.

Something keeps slipping your mind, Dempsey took chances and guess who didn't? That's why the KD's BTW the one KD out of the ring was more push than punch. Also claiming Spalla the European champ as a plus for Firpo, do some research on Spalla then you will see it's not that big of a deal.

Ok, cos you seem not to understand, Dempsey squashed Fulton in 18 sec this was before Wills fought Fulton. So Wills was fighting a Dempsey rethread then he fought an out of shape Tubby, which Dempsey totally destroyed, an in shape tubby, in two rds, how many rds did Wills go with a bloated tubby hmmmmm?

Here again, eddie you are either showing you have an agenda or you are clueless.

 

He wasn't it was plain to see, even some clueless posters, who were deaf, dumb and blind could see that.

 

Have to leave for today--back tomorrow or Saturday.

 

He was far more an expert than anyone alive today. He was there....you were not.

 

According to Wills, he was near broke. Or do you mean, he should have bren happy because was making better money than he did as a stevadore? Well, that's mighty paternalistic of you.

 

Wills was making good money going around as "the man who could give Dempsey a fight". He was pretty active from 1919 to 1925, he had 43 fights in that time, I am going to say Wills averaged at least 2,000 per fight, that makes it at least 86,000,
so he made at least 12,000+ per yr not counting his longshoreman pay. He was nor a partier, didn't smoke or drink, so just using that figure Wills was doing very well for himself, I would say. This figure is quite low, so you can figure 100,000 easy. So if he was broke where did he spend all that loot?

 

I didn't know you were his accountant.

The actual Wills, who actually watched his own money, said he was near broke in 1923.

 

Common sense my boy, common sense.

And of course you believe it, another unsubstantiated post. Ummm! Is that why he only fought twice for the next two yrs. Yep that makes senseatsch



Another pffffft whats that make now?

 

Based off the footage we have Wills does not look as good as Dempsey. I would have to make Jack a big favorite.

As for the Firpo fight Jack came out charging and got caught. He recovered and dominated Firpo. To me that is more impressive than the lack luster wrestling match Wills had with a clearly less in shape version of Firpo. His only knockdown was on a break (a move Wills seemed fond of using). Firpo lasts the distance.

I hate to take away from Wills' resume because it is impressive but I am skeptical how authentic some of his matches were. He fought the same couple of opponents over and over. Leads me to believe this was more of a barnstorming tour than actual do or die prizefighting sometimes.

 

Dempsey was always saying he was near broke too.
It doesn't mean much. Fighters tend to spend a lot.
Harry Wills moved to a large house in a fashionable part of Harlem, New York City.
I think he proved to be very financially successful in retirement, having saved the money he'd made in the ring. So if he really was broke in 1923 he must have made and saved a lot in the years 1924 - 27.
But who knows, who cares.

Harry Wills was at the very least relatively well-paid boxer. For a man who never got a title shot he was exceptionally well paid.

 

$12000 in 2016 dollars is $164,000. A decent annual salary.

 

How much is $150,000 (1924) in today's money ?
Apparently that was his purse for the Firpo fight.

 

That was after 1923.

I'm glad you all have decided that Wills made enough money being avoided by Dempsey and should have been happy with that. That's mighty white of you.

 

I couldn't care less who made what, to be honest.
I was just stating some facts, providing some detail.
These guys were paid pretty well to punch each other in the head. That's a fact.
If Dempsey and Wills complained about being "broke" you work it out yourself.

I've long said Wills deserved a title shot. He deserved the big payday based on a long career accomplishment. He deserved the chance to win the top spot in his profession. That's true even if he was the richest man in Harlem.

Might white ? You sound comically white yourself.
Yes, we get it. It's 2016 now, and you, Seamus, stand on the right side of history. It's okay, man, it's okay.