Has any boxer ever gotten more credibility for defeating recently beaten fighters...?

The concept that a defeat damages a fighter and makes them shot is just one of the daft things that gets spouted on esb.

Don't forget that pac himself has twice been knocked out.

Also, hatton and cotto were not coming off defeats but coming off top 3 career best victories.

Oscar, mosley and margo were all coming off comeback victories.

Only clottey really came off a defeat but it was very close and was it not for the kd I had it a draw.

 

Plus with pac you have to consider he's a former flyweight champion of the world. To be this successful at welterweight is ridiculous.

 

He you have look at his entire career, especially his career in the featherweight classes, and the fact he's beating the best in the world far above his natural weight.

 

i agree with the TS. one of my problems with pac man. to me, it is pure cherry picking and there aint nothing great about that. to me, he has been avoiding the real challenges out there. why fight guys who r old, past their primes, when u r the p4p best fighter in the world? doesnt make any sense to me. hes better than that

 

Mosley wasn't off a comeback victory. He had a loss to Floyd and a draw to Sergio Mora. Oscar was a zombie and Margarito didn't look too great in him comeback bout. I respect the Hatton win and the Cotto win, but I'm completely with the TS on the other three.

 

You're right, Pacquiao should fight Tim Bradley who is on a career winning streak, that will prove Pacquiao belongs as the p4p #1.

Then after that he should take on Mike Jones at 147 and then after that he should fight Rios who is undefeated as well.

 

ok you have listed floyd as who have taken a much better oppostion.

let's see them

1. orttiz - was knockdowned twice by berto and drew with peterson before that. just two years ago, he quit against maidana.
2. mosley - lost to cotto and struggled with mayorga very badly that he needs a last second knockout.
3. marquez - just lost to pacquiao and floyd actually cheated him on the scales.
4. hatton - looked **** at 147 against collazo where floyd fought him
5. oscar - stopped by hopkins and actually lost to sturm.
6. judah - lost to baldomir and an overrated fighter


floyd is not exactly fighting guys on a winning streak either and he took so many vacations in between that pacquiao accomplished more in welter in 2.5 years what floyd did at the weight in 5 years. but you have floyd with a much better recent oposition and accomplishment?

 

:think

The man at 126 was mab, pac beat him.

The man at 130 was pac, he can't beat himself.

The man at 135 was marquez, pac beat him.

The man at 140 was hatton, pac beat him.

The man at 147 is pac so he can't beat himself.

The man at 154 is cotto, pac beat him.

 

Blueprint, shmooprint. Take the 70's hw's. Ali, frazier, norton, holmes, foreman, shavers, young. All beat each other for career best victories, noone cards about blueprint.

Does pac deserve to be top dog? Absolutely, after beating jmm, diaz, oscar, hatton, cotto and clottey he's established how good he is. After then he's done nothing to enhance his legacy imo. Fighting berto, ortiz or bradley would be better.

 

How did you score shane-mora?

What was your prediction for oscar-pac?

Margo, meh, bull**** fight. As was mosley.