Has any champion had as many excuses in defeat as Evander Holyfield?

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  1. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Has any champion had as many excuses in defeat as Evander Holyfield?

    I cant think of anyone
     
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  2. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Holyfield ruined your wife, now it's like sliding a sausage down a bowling alley, i get it. :lol:
     
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  3. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Rarely, do any great fighters lose on their best night.

    He gave no excuses for Bowe, despite not taking the best strategic approach.
     
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  4. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bad shoulder/heart condition (Moorer)

    Hepatitis A (Bowe 3)

    Stomach and leg cramps (Lewis 1)

    Perforated eardrum (Ruiz)

    Shoulder injury (Toney)

    Shoulder injury (Donald)

    An enormous cut [Sherman Williams]
     
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  5. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Roberto Duran has got to be up there.
     
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  6. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The constant excuses got a bit ridiculous by the end of his career. Either he's deluded or they were legitimate excuses, in which case I wonder what he was doing fighting in the first place. Didn't he say the ring was too bouncy to take out his opponent after the Savarese fight?
     
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  7. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Azumah Nelson, more so for bad performances than defeats though.
     
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  8. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    The "excuses" you mention started in his mid-thirties ... no doubt he fought on way too long ... however was there ever a fighter who showed more heart against better opposition? Fighting bigger and younger men for the most part?
     
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  9. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In the literal interpretation of the thread, I would say:

    No, Fritzie Zivic probably had more, as he had to excuse over 60 defeats!!!
     
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  10. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roberto Duran deserves a mention(and this time he actually does)
     
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  11. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    Tinkerbell is the worst IMO lol.

    VS Buster - partied And didnt train

    VS Holyfeild - headbutts And didnt train

    VS Holyfeild 2 - headbutts so "took it to teh streets"

    VS Lenny - smoked spliffs on teh beach with rastas, didnt train And on drugs what "made him slur"

    VS Danny - bad knee

    VS McBide - didnt love boxing no more
     
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  12. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roberto Duran

    Leonard II - needed a poo

    15 times more - didnt train
     
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  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Jack Johnson forever wears the crown in this department.
     
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  14. Thread Stealer

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    George Foreman deserves a mention for his hilarious excuses for his defeats (or near-defeats). Many of these excuses came many years after he claimed that he finally learned to "accept" that Ali beat him.

    -Ref counted too fast
    -I was drugged by the same trainer I went back to work with in the 1990s
    -I was about to knock Ali out but I got distracted by seeing my friend betray me by rooting for Ali
    -The judges robbed me against Holyfield
    -I took it too easy on Stewart because I didn't want to hurt him
    -I took it too easy on Morrison because I didn't want to hurt him
     
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  15. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Read an interview with Tommy Loughran sometime. He never lost a fight in his life, according to him. He has more excuses than the NBA has playoff games
     
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