Has any heavyweight besides AJ achieved so much in only 19 fights?

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  1. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let's look at Joshua's achievements in ONLY 19 fights.

    Olympic gold medalist with a 40-3 amateur record.

    Stopped a hardened boxer who had been in with the likes of Fury, Vitali and who had never been stopped before, in only two rounds, on his 13th fight.

    Became world champion stopping Charles Martin who had never been stopped before in only two rounds.

    Walked through a championship contender in Eric Molina, who had put up a great fight against an experienced world champion in Deontay Wilder, and made it look easy.

    Outclassed and knocked down a ATG who had ruled the division for 10 years, in the best performance he had preformed in his 21 years as a professional, and flattened him in the 11th round, to become a unified champion in only his 19th fight.

    4-0 with 4 KO's in world championship fights.
    2-0 with 2 KO's against former world champions.

    Nobody serious gives anyone currently fighting any chance against Joshua, and he has only amazingly had 19 fights with 19 KO's.

    We are looking at and living though the period with best and most dominant champion in heavyweight history. We should all feel lucky.
     
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  2. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie

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    If you are knocked down hard and are losing on 1 card after 10 hard rounds means 'outclassed' then what did Fury to Wlad? I'm big AJ supporter but let's call the thing as it was
     
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  3. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Tyson being heavyweight champ at 20 years old is much more impressive.
     
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  4. James Smith

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    Joshua was three rounds up to anyone who was not looking though rose tinted glasses. Styles make fights, but I also think Wlady put up his best performance against Joshua, and his worst against Fury, and a lot of people think the same thing.
     
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    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes it is impressive, but Tyson did not beat anyone as good as little Wlady who was also in their prime.
     
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  6. On The Money

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    On the other hand, battered by a 41 year old man out the ring 18 months and got lucky with the stoppage. Two of the judges were on Matchroom kool aid.
     
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  7. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua is very good, but please restrained the urge to exaggerate. I'm sure Joshua himself wouldn't say that he 'outclassed' Wlad.

    And it wasn't Wlad's best performance in 21 years, you must know next to nothing about Wlad to say that.

    Yes, he showed more heart than any previous fight, but physically he's not in his prime.
     
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  8. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How do you have Joshua 3 rounds up? I can see a case for two rounds, but three? I rather suspect your glasses were tinted.
     
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  9. cslb

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    That's subject to debate. Michael Spinks had defeated atg undefeated Larry Holmes for the title. Klitschko never has faced, let alone beat a hof fighter in his entire career. Tyson's victory over Spinks for the lineal and undisputed heavyweight championship is more significant to me than Joshua's victory over a forty one year old Klitschko.
     
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  10. James Smith

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    He was beating Wlady by three points, would of been 6 points if Wlady could take more of a beaten. I would say that is outclassed.

    Well who was Wlady best performance against then? Everyone is saying that was him at his very best, and Joshua has only had 19 fights.
     
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  11. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who would win Joshua vs Spinks? You know the answer, and that was not Tyson's 19th fight, far from it.
     
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  12. _Scott_

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    No way Joshua outclassed Wlad, and no way Molina is anywhere near championship contender material. Just because he did well against fraud Wilder, doesnt make him a top 30 boxer...

    Charles Martin had no intention to get into a fight and only wanted to cash out.

    The knockout of Kevin Johnson was impressive, al though Chisora dropped him as well and Kingpin has been shot for years now.

    Joshua has several decent wins with Whyte and Breazeale and one great win with Wlad, but is still learning. His freakish power is the difference maker so far. Dont believe there is any chin which can take the bombs he throws.
     
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  13. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Who would win, Tyson at 20 or the Joshua that barely scraped by 41 year old Klitschko? I think you know the answer, then again, maybe not. lol
     
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  14. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Actually I scored it 96-92 to Joshua. The only rounds Wlady won were 6,7 and 8.
     
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  15. James Smith

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    Joshua obviously.
     
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