Has Any Major Belt Holder Ever Had A Worse First Three Defences Than Kelly Pavlik?

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  1. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Come on, it'll be nice for Boo Radley and Hermit to actually have something fresh to talk about for a change...

    Gary Lockett
    Marco Antonio Rubio
    Miguel Angel Espino

    Two that wouldn't have made a middleweight world top 40 list at the time and one that was top fifteen if we're being fairly generous.

    So, can anyone name a holder of a major belt (WBC or WBA, IBF from the mid-80s, WBO from post-90s) that has had a lower quality first three defences?
     
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  2. pavlikfan

    pavlikfan Active Member Full Member

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    Just a quick glance but umm...

    Wlad...after winning it for the 1st time off of Chris Byrd he goes on to beat some guys named Derrick Jefferson and CHarles Bufford, and then beats Botha.

    That was easy.
     
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  3. Shizzle

    Shizzle Meh. Full Member

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    Felix Sturm, second time round - Noe Alcoba, Randy Griffin, and Jamie Pittman.
     
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  4. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    john duddy...
     
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  5. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    ........oh wait...major...
     
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  6. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    yeah, nothing to really brag about. can't argue there.

    but you know good and damn well why he fought lockett...what would have happened w/ a calzaghe fight is not the point. its also not his fault there was a rematch clause w/ the former champ above the mw limit....which i never fully understood. and it was when talks w/ williams broke down for a mw defense (not assigning blame) that the hopkins fight was made.

    **** just hasnt worked out according to plan. he's young and has time. he'll be fine. martinez is a very good start. wouldnt you agree?
     
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  7. daz52

    daz52 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anthony Mundine

    Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas
    Jose Alberto Clavero
    Nader Hamdan
     
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  8. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: Dboozer...

    Do you have like a radar on your computer that lets you know when someone posts something about Pavhick? You're worse than me with my PW radar.:lol:
     
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  9. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    on my computer? hell no i sensed it on my way to the office :D

    :lol: what do you want from me? i get to the office, sit down, run through my news sites, drink my coffee, check ESB and its right there on the frontpage begging me to respond. i can't help myself.
     
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  10. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Martinez is a light middleweight who hasn't actually beaten anyone of note and is coming off a loss. It is actually a considerable step up on Pavlik's previous defences, but that's only in relative terms...
     
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  11. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    don't lie, boo and herm installed a chip in you
     
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  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Hmm, Mundine only held what was basically an interim title under another name in the WBA's quest to have ever more belts though. It technically counts, but not really sure I want to count it.
     
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  13. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mundine did not win a major belt...he was a glorified no1 contender.
     
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  14. daz52

    daz52 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah that is fair enough the title is about as bogus as bogus gets. WBA "Regular" SMW Championship. Whatever that is lol.
     
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  15. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sven Ottke- Whomever was not a can was cheated.
     
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