Has any other fighter moved up with the power of MP

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  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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  2. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As you gain weight you usually hit harder. He was also facing slower guys.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    This is the same guy who thinks Floyd's power is the same as it was at 130 despite him having a KO% of under 50% since leaving 130 lbs.
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Then how come most guys lose power as they go up in weight?
     
  5. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Cotto was also dropped by Torres and hurt by Corley that doesnt mean much,different fighters and different styles.

    You also must have seen a different fight if you think that JMM was never hurt when he fought Pac.

    And if you're going to mention his stoppage of Hatton then you can do the same with fraud who also sent Ricky down with one punch.
     
  6. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I didn't say that Floyds power was the same.
     
  7. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    What part of he changed is style dont you understand dumbass?

    also how many of his stoppages at 130 where corner retirements?
     
  8. Bslice

    Bslice Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The KO against Cotto was a flash knockdown, he just clearly caught him with a shot he didn't see coming, Hatton got whacked with a good shot but clearly gave up laying there on the canvas BTW. Manny's "power" comes from his speed which when carried to a higher weight class can actually be a more powerful weapon because fighters are used to people throwing slower shots. This would also explain why Jones, and Mosley carried their power into upper weight classes b/c they both have fast hands.
     
  9. BewareofDawg

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    Yeah I know, I'm more concerned with him maintaining his speed actually. you're right, of course his power would increase. I admit I was wrong above. I am skeptical of what he is putting into his body though.
     
  10. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I was talking about Bladerunner.
     
  11. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    He didnt stop JMM cause he takes caution to the limit not cause he couldnt,if he had gone all out for the KO he would've stopped him even Ray Charles could see that.
     
  12. McGrain

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    Fitzsimmons. Bigger puncher at HW than LMW.
     
  13. BigReg

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    You mean were not where dumbass. Anyway, how can you say for certainty that his power has stayed the same when he has changed his style according to you and is barely hurting these guys? Floyd was averaging about 40-45 punches at 130 lbs. The same is the case now. Look at the Corely and Gatti fights. He was unleashing 50 punches a round in those fights and was landing bombs. Both fighters were able to stand up to the punishment. Gatti's corner had to stop that fight.
     
  14. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not like Manny has. Your talking about a guy who has flattened three much naturally bigger guys where he couldnt do it at the lower weights. Im looking for an example of a fighter who has moved up as quickly and become that hard of a puncher consecutively not in the course of 10 or 15 years.
     
  15. BigReg

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    He was going all out towards the end of that fight and still couldn't stop JMM. Just tell me this, on what are you basing your theory that his power is the same?