Has anyone ever done more long-term damage to boxing than Wladimir Klitschko?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Davo, Jan 6, 2011.


  1. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is probably the best post regarding the Klits ever!
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  2. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know why you write these troll posts that are 10 paragraphs long when you can't even get the basic facts right.

    Wlad is on the ring p4p list precisely because he's cleaned out the division and taken all comers. There's no one left that's willing to fight him. If there is someone, name him. David Haye has pulled out of fights with the Klits 3 times now.
     
  3. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I still dont know who to blame.
    Its obvious Wlad wanted the fight, hes been talking about it for ages, and called haye out and was willing to do whatever it took to take the fight.
    Then the fight gets cancelled and we dont know who to point the finger at. But we see klitschko took the fight against chisora and haye coming out with a statement full of reasons for why klitschko was ducking.
    So now from haye avoiding talk with the klitshko's we have the Wlad ducking haye, all very confusing to me. From what ive gathered its wlad's fault and haye reallly wanted the fight.
    Also Vitali is a better fighter than Wlad, ive always thought that and in a fight vitali would win all day long !
     
  4. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    It blows my mind that of all the ****ed up things in boxing, that this faction of douche bags still want to **** with the K2. These dudes are consumate professionals, handle themselves with class, dominate their division. You say they are destroying boxing, I can make the case they are the only thing saving HW boxing, who would have the titles if not for K2? I can tell you who, a bunch of cats that don't deserve them. You find the willing and capable challenger for either, and watch them be demolished. I don't consider myself a K2 fan, but I respect what they have done and will continue to do. Your "point" is weak at best.
     
  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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  7. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep i agree, and thats what ive always thought.
    But what is the explanation for why the haye fight isnt happening?
     
  8. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Stupid ****ing moronic thread.

    I find Wladimir Klitschko boring as hell too, but he's proven himself the best heavyweight fighter out in the last few years, is very professional, very classy in interviews, is always in shape and is a credit to the sport.
    Give him some props.
     
  9. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Faye fans are the dumbest creatures on the planet.
     
  10. Davo

    Davo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In what way did Wlad clean out the division? Here are a few other HW champs of the last few years:

    Vitali
    Haye
    Valuev

    How many of those guys did Wlad fight? Obviously the Vitali fight would never happen, but many people who actually know about boxing would give Wlad very little chance against the bigger, better Klitschko. You know, the one that actually has heart. His fans say he could beat the other two easily, but yet he never even tried to negotiate a fight with one and clearly ducked the other.

    The only thing close to a champ he fought since he got his belts is a fat Chagaev on 2 weeks notice. Wlad has proven nothing at HW other than the fact he can tentatively beat bums and be badly KO'd by average to awful fighters.

    Wlad is well spoken. Wlad comes in shape. That's it. He refuses to fight the only guy since he last loss who would have any chance of beating him. He has always used BS unethical demands to negotiate his way out of fights. See this excellent thread by BoxingFanNo1 for a clear breakdown:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262561

    Again, who has he beaten to prove himself as the best HW. Vitali has the better resume in terms of quality opponents and never being beaten by humilating TKO multiple times. Wlad has also refused to fight the best boxer that has come along since he's been champ.

    Wlad is a credit to the sport at press conferences and weigh-ins only. When at the negotiating table or in the ring he is the most distructive influence modern HW boxing has ever seen. He has single handedly turned off the entire world from HW boxing with his disgracefully boring style and bum opponents.

    Wlad is a coward and a fraud.
     
  11. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    Davo has been pretty much on the money in every post

    Now littered with stupid blind Klit lovers defending the indefensible, sad really.
     
  12. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    FACT: NOBODY GIVES A **** ABOUT HEAVYWEIGHTS.

    FACT: KLITSCHKO IS NOT ALLOWED ON HBO.

    Yes the mother ****er HURTS boxing. People were talkin about LEWIS, ABOUT TYSON, ABOUT FOREMAN, HOLLYFIELD AND All them.

    Not BITCHKO.

    Don't get me wrong, I was thinkin damn, this kid is comin up then he GOT HIS ASS BEAT BY SANDERS and crawled around like scared ***** the second knockdown withouteven gettin punched.
     
  13. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    The only thing keeping either Klitschko from being as big a name as those listed above (even though even those names aren't all on par with each other) is a true rival. He's not the "animal" Tyson was, he's not the "underdog" Holyfield was, obviously he doesn't have an Ali or Frazier like Foreman did, and as far as Lennox...I mean were people not saying essentially the same **** about him while he was active? Bottom line, the brothers are being penalized in the minds of some because other guys aren't willing to get in shape, perfect their craft, and truely challenge them. I don't make the case they can't be beaten, obviously they can, but I do make the case they can't be beaten by the guys who are active right now...I would think thats pretty obvious. If you want to place all your eggs in this David Haye basket, so be it, but there's a reason he's trying to get as much cash as possible before he takes his medicine. He knows what's up, everyone knows what's up, there is always the faction of people that hate those who are dominant...people hated the Jordan Bulls, they hate the Patriots, they hate the Yankees, and they will tell themselves whatever they can to believe that "next" time will be different. In this instance, the truth is, "next time" will be no different than "last time", the only thing that will stop the Klitschko's as it stands now is father time.
     
  14. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mother ****er, HBO bought the fight the first time when Haye and Wlad was gonna fight cuz they knew Wlad's ***** ass would have to fight for once, and when he has to fight, he crawls on the ground like a scared ***** afraid to take punches.

    (see the second Sanders knockdown when he went down without gettin hit)

    So, don't tell me that there ain't nobody out there. HAYE is out there. But Klitschko is fightin a mother ****er ain't NOBODY wanna see.

    DESPITE sayin ANYTIME and ANYWHERE.

    ****in ***** ass Wlad.
     
  15. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Yes or No did he give Haye a contract for July 2nd that Haye refused to sign? It's a Yes or No question, did he or did he not? I'll wait for your response...