Has anyone ever done more long-term damage to boxing than Wladimir Klitschko?

He never fought any of the other champions in the division and never really made any attempt to clean it out.

His brother has a better resume, has not been embarressingly TKO'd by 3 bums and put in a monster performance, albeit a loss, against an ATG. How exactly do you rate Wlad higher? Fact is, he's not even the best HW champ in his family, let alone anything close to an ATG.

This is bull****. See about any one of a few hundred posts on the subject before you post BS.

If I have sworn at you in the past, it's probably cos you posted ******ed lies like this. Please show me a post where I have **** talked Vitali.

You are a liar and a fool. I hate Wlad cos he is an a coward and a fraud who has so little heart and so much fear that he refuses to fight anyone that has even a slight chance of beating him. I respect Vitali for much the opposite reason.

Admittedly Vitali has fought bums since his comeback, but he's old and clearly well past his best. In his prime Vitali was a beast and fought fighters Wlad would never go near. You all insist that Wlad is only now in his prime but yet you're happy for him to fight often times even bigger bums than his brother. Dispicable.

1. Wlad has never even made eye contact with guys that good.

2. Lennox went unified the HW division in a much better era.

3. Lennox beat other great fighters. Wlad has no notable wins at all.

4. Lennox fought with heart.

5. Lennox KO'd bums brutally and quickly, Wlad tentatively UD's them or waits for them to completely gas.

6. Lennox never ducked anybody. Wlad has CLEARLY DUCKED Haye.

7. Lennox had to be hit hard to go down. Wlad was so scared he jumped on the floor like a ***** against the second time against Sanders without even getting hit. Do I need to mention the name Lamon Brewster?!?! Wlad's a ****ing disgrace.

Excellent points. Wlad is the sole reason the biggest market in the world turned its back on HW boxing and he's done nothing to correct it since.

Tyson fought plenty of poor opposition, but no TV network in the world would dare not show his fights..... why?...... cos he entertained people by fighting hard all the time. Wlad is too cowardly to fight even the most disgraceful of bums with any heart at all. He's a fraud and he's almost single handedly ruined what was once the pinacle of the sport.

The Audley fight was ****ing awful, but it could never, ever be compared to Wlad-Ibragimov or any of the Wlad fights that have followed. EVER.