Has anyone ever done more long-term damage to boxing than Wladimir Klitschko?

This is basically right, but Haye has difficulties with fighting Chagaev because of the hepatitis issue. The BBBofC may not give him a license because of it. Then Sky were awkward about the date because of Amir Khan.

What Haye is scared of happening is this. He signs the contract, Wlad fights Chisora, then 3 days after the Chisora fight says "I'm hurt, I need an extra month, we have to re-schedule" at this point Haye can't do anything because he's contractually tied-in, so Klitschko can then force the date back to August/September instead of July 2nd, which is a totally ridiculous timescale to do training and promote the fight. It's a non-offer. By August/September Haye has to have fought Chagaev or he will lose his belt, which is his major bargaining chip, without the WBA belt Klitschko could make the fight 70/30 or refuse to make it happen at all, instead fighting a "unification" with Ruslan Chagaev instead.

Haye isn't blameless in all this, he should've made this fight happen in 2009, but now he looks like he's bending over backwards to make the fight and no matter how hard he tries Wlad doesn't want it to happen. You have to wonder why....

 

Gulliver was a 'beast' in Lilliput, so what? Klitschko has never fought an opponent who was better than half decent. Don't trouble yourself to respond, you have no argument. Wlad's a pretty good fighter but he's never beaten a pretty good fighter and nor has Vitali.
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Stalin. The rise and prevalence of communism in the 20th century has surely deprived boxing of generations of Klitschkos, Dragos, and other intimidating eastern European fighters who will break their opposition and hold indifferent opinions upon all the opponents they kill.

 

No no I added something else in my post, which you might not have read yet. I agree that this would be almost impossible. My addition was that Haye would look a lot better if he simply said to Wlad 'ok have it your way' and agreed to that date, fought Chagaev in March or at the latest early April, OR accepted being stripped and fought someone else in that time and then asked Wlad for the fight. If he then didn't accept, Wlad would look like a complete pratt and Haye would looked like he really wanted the fight.

 

GSP's last one was certainly no more competetive than Haye v Harrison....

 

well done! very true!! i live in britain and i can tell you that all brittish poeple talk is their own sport or athletes as there is no other althete in the world but brittish

 

Don't paint us all with the same brush.

 

Again, how does this concern Haye? That's the problem of promoters, Sky, RTL and they all are on board with the fight. Haye is the only one stalling.

 

Purritty and Brewster are not very good fighters though. A prime Oliver McCall is the sort of iron-chinned nightmare that would, in todays division, be very hard to beat. Hasim Rahman, pre-Lewis, was a decent hard-hitting campaigner who beat Corrie Sanders as it happened. Losing to those guys is nothing like as bad as losing to Ross Purritty, who was a journeyman, and Lamon Brewster, a tough but limited fighter.

Look at it this way. Yes, Lennox was unprofessional in the Rahman match, McCall was a lucky punch and an early stoppage. However Wlad was being totally unprofessional in letting Purritty and Brewster stick around for so long when they are so outlcassed? What is a guy who is a 6ft7, wrecking-ball doing letting a guy who is totally overwhelmed stick around for 10 rounds? Wlad may have been beating Brewster up, but he couldn't find a way to stop him could he?? If he'd have got him out of there, like he really ought to against a guy he's 6inches taller and 20lbs heavier than, then his **** stamina wouldn't have been a problem!

 

I see. But as it stands the fight isn't going to happen anyway, belt or no belt. So if Haye fought someone else so he could train for July 2 and forgot what Wlad was doing, Wlad would still look like a right twat for not fighting him if he went off and fought Chagaev again.

I suppose what I am really saying is that Haye could have handled this much better if he wanted to look better to all us boxing fans. Wlad IS being awkward but Haye has now undone all his work by giving in to all Wlad's concessions by saying the fight is off.

 

Spot on.

 

I know that won't happen. I know this. But Wlad is giving the impression that it WILL. Haye also knows this. But he can still accept it anyway instead of whining and he would look MUCH better.

 

I agree with this. Despite Haye handling this badly now, this is true. If Wlad wanted to fight Haye he could do. And Haye wouldn't need to say the fight couldn't happen.