Has anyone here watched the cotto canelo fight with the sound off?

I like to close my eyes and listen like it's a old radio fight, nothing like putting absolute faith in HBO's commentary team to call a fair and impartial match.

 

that intended to be humorous?

 

lol

 

i had it 114-114
tv azteca had it 117-111 cotto

 

I did that this afternoon and you're correct you can hear that, also by that method of viewing I had Cotto winning 118-110.

 

QUOTE: he didn't pay the sanctioning fees and was wearing pink trunks for goodness sake. It's hard to score it for a guy who basically handed over the title to Canelo before the bout[/QUOTE]

REALLY?
THAT is a valid argument in your mind?
That is an immature thing to say.

 

No, that's not a valid argument to score a fight obviously, but suffice to say Cotto never seemed like he really was trying all that hard to win. He was gunshy to really get inside and land some of his trademark hooks and combos. The fact that he didn't pay the sanctioning fees and was wearing pink trucks, well it sort of mirrored the way he fought that fight, like he wasn't interested in retaining that title, and appearing to not try all that hard to win. He boxed well, but he never really took the fight to Canelo like he could have. Canelo also was content to be very patient and had a lot of respect for Cotto.

I actually thought Canelo fought Cotto similarly to how he fought Floyd. He stayed patient, didn't really try to be all that aggressive because Cotto wasn't able to do anything to him, he was content to go the distance.

 

that he relinquished the trinket "mirrors" the fact that he had zero interest in defending it.
there are some fighters above the belts, cotto, canelo, mayweather, pac are fighters that don't need belts or the fees the worthless straps demand. so your argument about defending any belt is rendered mute.
the pink is a homophobic and sad comment that by standing by it shows your immaturity on the subject.
if your son comes out as a homosexual, i hope you are enough of a father, not to mention a man to help him deal with homophobic monsters like you seem to possibly be.
i do hope i'm wrong.

 

Fair enough, but my point still stands. When he didn't pay the sanctioning fees, it affected people's perception of the fight, rightly or wrongly, and made it that much harder to argue that Cotto deserved to win. It didn't change what happened in the fight, but it set a tone that Cotto was more interested in a payday than winning the fight and retaining his title.

Pink is a girly color. Real man don't wear pink to a fight. It has nothing to do with being homophobic. (I'm not) Girls play with pink dolls and guys like G.I. Joe. If a guy wants to wear pink or play with dolls, who am I to judge. But it's definetly the least manly color to wear in a boxing ring. (and FYI I like and respect Cotto)

 

And if you watch closely enough, Jazz actually leaps through the front door back in to Uncle Phil's waiting arms.

 

"
No. You don't respect him, you hardly respect yourself, as you judge when you lack the maturity to do so.
a color does not define a man's heart, his courage or his worth
you have some growing up to do and if your personal opinion on this matter is due to your upbringing, friends or religion, then i suggest you open your world to bigger things.
you seem to possess the intellect to do so.
"

 

btw. cotto was far better vs floyd than canelo
better than pac too

 

Tell that to the Golovkin fanboys who to this very day harp on the fact that Canelo vacated the MW title and it was handed over to Golovkin. I mean we see countless threads pretty much on a daily basis criticizing Canelo over and over again for “cowardly” vacating the MW title.

But you’re saying that NOBDOY’S PERCEPTION CHANGED because one trinket or another was on the line. That’s just flat out false, however I tend to agree with you that vacating a belt really shouldn’t mean that much especially when you are making big fights and setting PPV records and what not. Ask Golovkin fans how important that Trinket is, they bring it up every day and are pretty much using it as an excuse to not make the fight with Canelo lmao.

Yes, I certainly do respect Cotto. I am a big Cotto fan. And I don’t think anything less of him for wearing Pink trunks to the ring. However, Pink IS the most girly color a man can wear in a boxing ring.

I never said a color defines a man’s heart, his courage or his worth. I am very open minded, but I am simply pointing out facts that were plainly obvious to anyone watching that contributed to how the fight was perceived.

 

Not on the scorecards he wasn't, but he did have more offensive moments vs Floyd than Canelo had I'll admit that. The reason for that was because Floyd didn't feel as threatened by Cotto as he was by Canelo. Floyd was fine fighting Cotto at 154 but was not fine with fighting Canelo at 154 and needed the 152 catchweight to fight Canelo. Floyd was more willing to fight Cotto toe-to-toe with less head movement beause he wasn't as worried about Cotto's power as he was about Canelo's power.