Has Ben Davison now proved himself to be a better trainer than Peter Fury ?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Canning, Dec 3, 2018.


Which trainer has achieved more for Tyson ?

  1. Ben Davison

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  2. Peter Fury

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    85.3%
  1. alpo1

    alpo1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    were peter and hughie there to support their boy?
     
  2. Canning

    Canning Member Full Member

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    No they seem to have fallen out big time
     
  3. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Sounds like something a Twitter casual would say
     
  4. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    It's hard to say isn't it..

    Fury looked about the same as he always has, may be some slight differences but it's hard to notice...


    So therefore I couldn't say if he's better than fury, it probably doesn't matter much either way fury can box.
     
  5. Canning

    Canning Member Full Member

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    About Tyson falling out with Peter ?
    Heard it’s a fact do you know any different ?
     
  6. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it's an unfair question and I won't answer it by choosing one.

    Peter turned the rough diamond into a well polished one. He moulded Fury's style. That in itself is huge. The fight v Wlad was a flawless performance. Fury hadn't fought near that level yet Peter fine tuned his tools and gave him the game plan + confidence to dethrone the decade long king of the division. Remarkable achievement.

    Ben was given the almost impossible task of knocking up to ten stone off Fury. A year later Fury outboxes an unbeaten heavyweight champion over 12 rounds in America, who was regarded as the most dangerous man in the division. Another remarkable achievement.

    Peter moulded Fury's style and helped dethrone an all time great. Ben rediscovered those skills from a place they never looked likely to come back from and helped beat one of the most dangerous heavyweights in history.

    Two excellent jobs that should be credited for what they are. It's unnecessary to compare.
     
  7. Canning

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    But surely Ben should get more credit as Tyson decided Peter wasn’t up to the job and sacked him in favour of Davison.
     
  8. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Angelo Dundee said it best,

    "Ali would have been a great fighter no matter who was training him."
     
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  9. kasabian19

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    There's an interview a few days before the fight where Tyson mentions someone called Hughie, and then shortly after turns to someone off camera and says something like 'Didn't we Hughie?'.

    Unsure of that's the Hughie or simply someone else.
     
  10. CutThroatFade

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    Don’t forget his late uncle Hughie. He was his head trainer before he became ill.

    Hughie Fury was definitely not there. He is in the UK and was there during the fight. It was disappointing that he never wished Tyson well on social media before the fight. I’m sure he would have done so personally though. Sad to see these apparent divisions in their family now.
     
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  11. alpo1

    alpo1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Was hughie there for the fight?

    It's a shame but the truth is that the only reason they're known (besides the fact of peter being the gypsy walter white) is due to tyson, and they should appreciate that.
     
  12. Davepompeydave

    Davepompeydave As bad as can Full Member

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    I remember seeing on social media before Peter fury posting a photo at David Hayes camp and tyson saying something about him working with the enemy. It was during tysons downfall and I can't say I've seen tyson with hughie or Peter since. I agree it's sad as I loved there being a British family of heavyweights thought at the time they would dominate the scene together like the klitchcos did. Maybe one day they'll put their differences apart. Do think regardless of the trainer Tyson Fury will always be the big awkward Tyson Fury
     
  13. Twentyman

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    They’ve both been significantly important in Fury’s career. Just like a marriage though people change as the years roll on and what you need from someone in your 20’s can be different to what you need in your 30’s and vice versa. Peter was just what Fury needed in his 20’s...but Peter didn’t understand Tyson’s mental illness and ultimately they drifted apart. Ben gets him, and can bring out the best in him.
     
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  14. Hattonmad

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    That's a strange comment to make. It wasn't exactly like that from what I gather. The relationship between Tyson and Peter broke down for many reasons. We saw most of them played out in the media. Tyson's erratic behaviour, bad communication, Peter/Mick doing a deal with Haye etc etc.

    Tyson went AWOL for two years and put on ten stone. He came back under Ben because I don't think he wanted to go back to Peter's old school regime. Perhaps Peter is a bit too old school, but few men in the world could've done a better job with Tyson than Peter when he was training him.

    Two very good trainers who done a great job with Tyson at very different stages of his career.
     
  15. CutThroatFade

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    No Hughie was not there.