Has Canelo ever defeated the #1 in any division without controversy?

You bought into the hype, that's why you regularly defend him. It has nothing to do with "greatest MW ever" because it's not even sensible to say that, not even for a proven ancient nutcase like you.

 

As I said, only mentally ill people will compare Hagler to a farce who's biggest win to date is Kell Brook.

 

English is clearly not your language. Defending him against brainless turds means bought into hype? That doesn't even make sense.
He was an exciting largely unknown fighter for the most part. Just because you first heard of him when HBO pushed him doesn't mean everyone has.

Hell, you just sackswing on already established "P4P" fighters like annoying casuals do. You've always done that.

You're the type of twat that doesn't think a fighter deserves fanfare unless they are already a champ or on the mythical P4P list. Go play video games or something punk...

 

Check back to my post #340 in this topic, you're making the same point about GGG Derevyanchenko that I made for Canelo GGG 2, that you can't judge a fight on facial damage. (not always, but ever) Lance couldn't accept that I had the fight close while pointing out that GGG was getting beat up by the heavier shots from Canelo.

 

Fan fiction? He did put on an outboxing clinic in the first match, which is evidenced by how many people were surprised Canelo had the kind of footwork and outboxing skill that he showed in GGG 1. Many going in and to this day claim Canelo is flat footed. He showed a different facet to his game that night by giving GGG a taste of the sweet science. And as far as giving him a beating in the rematch, you don't judge a fight on facial damage. Although GGG sustained heavy damage he did enough to keep it close by the end. I gave GGG 5 rounds in the rematch.

 

Outboxing clinic that 95% of everyone thought he lost!! Hey, tell us more how canelo COULD have his fight w/ Floyd scored for him again.

 

You see what you want with the only boxer you watch.... go to bed casual, you're drunk!

 

The Mexican Style narrative was a narrative GGG created by baiting Canelo to fight more aggressively in the rematch. That was the story of the fight, GGG set that expectation for the rematch by saying all that. GGG put himself in that situation for calling for a Mexican Style war then when Canelo obliged, when push came to shove he did the opposite and turned into a backing away jabber. That's what happened.

I know this upsets you because it shows that GGG didn't turn into the warrior that you and many claimed he was when he was calling for Canelo to fight Mexican style lol. I find it humorous that now fans opinions don't matter, but yet you and many other GGG fans backed GGG for criticizing Canelo for not fighting come forward enough in the first match and many GGG fans argued that because of that, Canelo didn't do enough to win. Alls I'm doing is exposing the hypocrisy when the tables were turned, when Canelo fought the way GGG and many his fans wanted him to fight in the first match in the rematch, GGG wanted no part of it. That's not fan fiction, that's reality.

 

no one reads your essays...

 

Again you seem incapable of separating fighting styles from scoring. And here you are citing fan fiction, saying that 95% of "everyone" thought he lost. You're Mr. Fan Fiction not me.

And on top of that you're claiming that I said something about Canelo vs Mayweather that I did not. I've said repeatedly that Floyd won in close but clear fashion.

 

Nothing I've ever said suggests that. I'm well aware of how to score. So...you need an exact %? Well, guess what, it's well above 50% and perhaps below 95%. you could dunk a ball standing with your reach.

OK, MY BAD.... You said one could conceivably score the fight for canelo. YUUGE difference...

 

I recommend you stop talking to Canelo fanboys Lance, no point.

 

You're such a drama queen. You talk to me about fanboy scoring and fan fiction, then you proceed to claim that 95% of the fans had GGG winning the first match with Canelo lmao. Now I see you're trying to walk that back. You're a hypocrite plain and simple.

And as far as Canelo Mayweather if I said anything remotely like that it was to point out the success Canelo was having vs Mayweather and how close it was. Many fans continue to argue that Floyd dominated Canelo, or won every round, that's another example of fan fiction. So for me to go against the herd to say it was close and that I agreed with the judges, that's me going against fan fiction and telling you what really happened.

 

I'm an unbiased boxing fan first. I saw what happened, so did the official judges.

 

As am I, I don't even rate GGG that highly and thought he lost to Derevyanchenko and scraped by on a knockdown to Jacobs and I think he won both fights 8-4 on the cards against Canelo. Canelo has shoddy punch volume and he didn't differentiate often enough with power shots. You must have ignored GGG's jab which was the biggest factor in both fights. The judges are famously corrupt in Canelo fights so please spare me the illusion that you're unbiased if you take their verdict seriously.
Also your profile pic gives it away moron.