Has Canelo Had Most Consistently Bad Scorecards In Championship Fights Of Any Fighter In History ?

If a judge scored the Bivol-Canelo fight 12-0 in Canelo’s favour, Shadow will find a way to defend it.

Shadow isn’t a fanboy, because the spinning he does is extreme - he’s more than likely a Canelo bot

 

I disagree completely..
Ryder, GGG 3, Jacobs, Smith, Plant..most of his recent fights are boring af. All he is doing is plodding along whipping hooks into elbows and arms - it’s really boring.

Post-GGG 2 he’s been extremely boring to watch

 

Seasoned judges are trained to reward eye pleasing actions in the ring. Quite simply, Canelo's style and skills make it very difficult for judges to score against him. It's not corruption, it's not bias, it's how he fights and how good at fighting he is. You might not like it, you might not agree with it, but his boxing is very impressive and definitely worthy of being rewarded for it.

His eye pleasing style is a big reason why he wins so many rounds. In close, relatively even rounds he does a lot of intangibles that tilt a round in his favor. Part of the problem is that most fans don't actually consider each of the 4 scoring criteria. Most fans only focus on punches landed, and even worse generally just count punches as if it's simply a race to land the most punches.

Clean Effective Punching, Ring Generalship, Effective Aggression and Defense are directly linked to scoring. Most fans, especailly on this forum have made it very clear that they have no appreciation for things like Ring Generalship. I've heard fans try to tell me that Ring Generalship isn't a real thing or can't be quantified.

When you talk about an eye pleasing style that wins over judges in close rounds, we're talking about things like Ring Generalship, Effective Aggression and Defense. In an otherwise even round, you might get 1 or 2 times Canelo slips a punch with upper body movement which could win him the round, or lands more body shots that the opponent doesn't. These things are generally lost on most fans, not that they don't notice them, but that they don't apply it to scoring rounds. Most fans completely ignore it when Canelo lands more body shots, or slips punches, or dictates pace, all of which is clearly defined as integral parts in the scoring criteria.

A lot of fans don't even consider Ring Generalship when scoring a round, they think it's irrelevant to scoring. They're just counting punches like robots. That's why there's a huge divide between fan scoring and pro judge scoring and why topics like this get created. A lot of fans literally don't have a clue on how a professional prize fight is scored. They don't get why Canelo wins as many rounds as he does because quite frankly they don't know how rounds are scored according to the criteria judges score them. Fans score them differently based on their own criteria (mostly counting punches) and that's why they score rounds against Canelo. A lot of fans are not looking for what judges are trained to look for when deciding who wins rounds.

 

You're an idiot. I've made it very clear that Bivol won 7 rounds clearly and the most you can argue for Canelo is 5 rounds, 4 of which were extremely close (the first 4), 1 of which was a clear Canelo round (round 9). Yet you completely ignore everything I've said about that match and exaggerate to the extreme. You're not fooling anyone with this nonsense.

 

You're delusional on many levels. I've made it clear that I had Mayweather winning a close and competitive fight. Khan wasn't clearly winning, he was competitive and arguably winning. But there was nothing wrong with having Canelo ahead there.

Good to know that you scored the Trout and Lara matches for Canelo, because a ton of people argue Canelo clearly lost those, some even call those a robbery. Just shows that a lack of a consensus exists on how those should be scored even amongst Canelo detractors.

 

he lives in the shade beneath ginger's balls.

 

Quite simply, that's bull****

 

One of us is very clearly delusional, shadow.

 

Been watching boxing since the 70's & also know a wee bit about previous eras (not nearly as much as some of the fine posters on here, but still I've done a bit of reading and watching). Canelo is without a doubt the most obvious & blatant recipient of F'd up scorecards I am aware of. Period.

 

lul the irony You thought the floyd fight was close and competitive ? lmao

 

It's not something I keep a running number of but yeah he has had some very favorable cards. When I heard the scorecards for the Mayweather fight, I honestly thought they were gonna rob him. 114-114? That was an impossible score even if you were watching the fight upside down and in a mirror.

 

The media was obviously in the tank for Floyd and scoring the fight blind, giving every remotely close round to Mayweather. Duh.

 

He was also up against plant on the cards. This sport is so corrupt