Has Canelo improved since Bivol?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Has Canelo got bette since his loss to Bivol or has he declined since then?
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  2. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    No, if anything he’s looking somewhat past his prime or peak, whichever way you want to say it. I expect another 12 round Bivol masterclass if that rematch takes place. Beterbiev would maul him, the Benavidez fight would be the closest and Clenelo could win that one though as Benavidez is the least impressive of the three B’s imo.
     
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  3. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Canelo has peaked and is as put together as he's gonna get. There's not much more he can prove on to compliment his style
     
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  5. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    My god these boxing fans who think 20 year career boxers who have done it since leaving the womb can improve in the span of a 3 months or a new trainer. Every single one of them reverts to type against decent opponents. Canelo is basically a plodding bum when he fights legit men. Even Fury the most versatile, colourful and sexy champion of all times will turn into a juggernaut who will outwill and out heart you if he gets hurt or his boxing isn't working. Which is why adversity is the test of a true champion. I don't care how you perform knocking over Dave or Instagram Garcia. I want to see how to handle the heat of the burner. Canelo cried on the ropes pretending he was goading Bivol in when he wasn't. He was pretending to be strong when he was so so weak, Bivol played with him it wasn't competitive at all.
     
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  6. panchman69

    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He looks weaker, and no still fights the same.
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    No
     
  8. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Cool story bro. P4P is hogwash. Bringing Khan up to 154 to KO him is straight up assault.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    Canelo has not improved. There's very little that he can do to improve other than plugging the hole in his gas tank. Bivol is simply a horrible stylistic matchup and I expect a repeat of last fight if they do it again
     
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  10. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, if anything he's just about starting to slide by my eye.
     
  11. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    No…he’s a great fighter, but just like with Fury vs Wilder, he’s just stylistically wrong for Canelo and no matter how many times they fight the outcome will be the same.
     
  12. AngryBirds

    AngryBirds Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I disagree with the view that he's weakened. He's not. If ANYTHING he has stagnated because 168 is just not challenging for him and there is no more room for growth. Thats led to him relying on power shots instead of skill because thats all he needs 99% of the time to win. Its also the cause of why his stamina has dropped a lot. Moving up to 175 gave him the opportunity to grow, but the division is too much so he can't go there either. He's stuck at 168 and unless the division gets more challenging he'll just stagnate until age begins to weaken him.

    As far as Bivol goes, Canelo at this point is already past his peak so he wont be getting any better. His only hope of winning is to go back to his boxing-oriented approach which utilized the jab and counter punching. He'll have better stamina and Bivol won't dominate him nearly as much as what he did the first time around. If Canelo can make that mindset change, he can make the fight close enough that the judges will side with him.
     
  13. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His skills have stayed the same as he has kept more or less everything in camp the same. He's probably on the downturn physically but this is a point in which his skillset should be hitting a peak. He should or should have looked for a new trainer to expand on what he's learned and get a different perspective.
     
  14. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo hasn’t really improved since Mayweather. The Bivol fight showed as much. It’s just been favorable matchmaking by his team.
     
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  15. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Not in the slightest