Has Daniel Dubois refused to sign for VADA testing for his fight with Anthony Joshua?

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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    According to this, Dubois is refusing to continue his VADA testing before the Joshua fight.

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  2. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    Dubois completed VADA testing for his last 3 fights, VADA confirmed it on their Twitter.

    According to Boxrec, Dubois is currently enrolled.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even if he wasn't signed up for VADA why would it matter as a Brit athlete he's drug tested far more stringently with 24/7, 365 days per year by UKAD. VADA testing isn't the gold standard for most boxers outside of the US. Remember it was VADA's tests that helped clear Dillian Whyte previously when UKAD charged him with doping after the Rivas fight.
     
  4. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Like Tyson Fury was?
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He served a 2 year suspension didn't he? Better than 6 months for Canelo's adverse result.
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeeees, but...

    The suspension was really for cocaine and mental health issues. The PEDs portion of it was just a name-only tag-on that Fury agreed to because he wasn't going to serve a day over what he would have.
     
  7. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is this Hearns another dirty tactic ?
     
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  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    But they made him admit his guilt on taking PED's too. The problem was Fury was legally challenging everything to save his reputation and UKAD simply didn't have the finances to be kept being dragged through the courts and the nature of the doping violation being nandralone was always going to be difficult to conclusively prove guilt. So both sides came an agreement, Fury would admit guilt but UKAD would agree he had served his time due to the length he had already been suspended.

    Could you imagine VADA and which is a business designed to make a profit being willing to risk bankruptcy to enforce a decision it's made? Nope they would give up quickly and choose profit over doing what was right.
     
  9. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I noticed that about Boxrec the other week

    When did Boxrec start tracking who is and isn't with VADA? Seems kind of strange for them to choose a side which seems so promotional-political

    Anyway, I went to VADAs website and currently Joshua is enrolled but
    Daniel is not enrolled
    https://vada-testing.org/fighters/

    Seems an odd oversight
     
  10. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Thank you for clearing this up. I just informed BoxRec so they will likely correct their mistake.

    https://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=264254
     
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  11. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    I don't think every enrolled fighter is on VADA's website for some reason. It looks very incomplete.

    For example Ruiz and Miller was a VADA tested fight, but on their website it doesn't say that they welcomed them into the testing program.

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    They also confirmed Dubois vs Hrgovic was VADA tested on their Twitter, but say nothing about them on their site.

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    They confirmed that AJ was getting VADA tested for the Ngannou fight, but it doesn't confirm that he completed it, like it does for some other fighters. And it says nothing about the Dubois vs AJ fight.
     
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  12. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lol, I'm interested to how they respond.
    Actually, I suspect the mistake is on the Vada website.
    Though, in fairness if they can't get it correct on their own website, it will be difficult for boxrec to know where they stand.
     
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  13. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sorry but UKAd is crap how long after Fury failed for PEDS before it finally came to light 2 years?
     
  14. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp Jokic THREE Time MVP Haters Full Member

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    Lol :D Well… imagine my SHOCK :lol:

    And if a promoter has enough cash… that’s also what decides if a boxer is ‘caught’ doping or not. Ask Hearn and joshua. Don’t think Eddie hasn’t met up for a coffee with UKAD or other agencies and slipped the right people a thick ass envelope under the table to toss out his golden boy’s A and B samples. Not hard to type in data or replace them with someone else’s.

    Sixty or Seventy G’s in cash would entice a lot of people to actually Not do their job. Lol
     
  15. Finkel

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    Tbh, I just think VADA at its core is a small business (though they do have a catchy acronym).

    Yes they might be operating at a level of boxing where a lot of money is floating around, but from what I've seen from videos and how they communicate with the public I suspect it is something like:

    • Head office would be a small, original team.
    • Collection might be on an ad-hoc contract basis. With a pool of repeat contractors. It would be very difficult to employ teams on different continents. I guess it's possible they a dedicated centralised team who they fly around the world (nice perk if that's the case!)
    • Outsource laboratory work.
    • Website would be maintained semi-regularly by an outside contracted web developer.
    • Twitter/social media being updated most regularly and probably by someone at head office (side job), by a temp, or someone's son or daughter. Though I think that might be the guy reposting the information who might have made the typo in the Instagram post, "VAVDA".
    Anyway, as long as the head office are communicating the results to those actually involved in boxing (the fighters' teams, etc.), I don't think it matters too much. They probably see updating the public as an after-thought.

    But if my above hunch about VADA is close to true, I think Boxrec keeping a record of who is VADA approved is going to become a headache for them if they already struggle with Instagram and their own website.
     
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