how can that be when there's no legit champion at SMW, he lost to kessler, had a debatable win over dirrell..and now people want to talk him up over his first solid win since before jermain taylor?
I think it is a bit strange that most people have no SMWs in their p4p list, but have several MWs. I mean, its not like the MW division is a more talented division than the SMW at the moment? Anyway, when the Super 6 tournament is finished there should be no excuse to not have the winner in the top10 p4p and the other finalist in top10-top15.
i agree with part of that. the SMW tournament is here because calzaghe retired, kessler was seen as the successor, didn't cut it, and that division is up in the air - which isn't a bad thing with the tournament happening. but it's madness ranking any of the super 6 fighters in the P4P list now. i think people gravitate towards big PPV fights to rank fighters too much.
I think he has. I posted this list about a week ago and he's definitely done more than Ward/Bradley/Donaire(even though I think Ward would beat him) so I cant see why he doesnt deserve a place. HEADBANGER actually put it well, if Ward had Froch's wins not only would he be in the Top10, he'd probably be between 3-5.
Let's not talk about me. I demolished the CLR Interim champion at a catchweight. It's not a big deal though. I was just doing my job. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh, it's nothing personal.
'one win doesn't get you in the top 10' - you are describing andre ward to a tee their with that disgraceful hometown, headbutted win in joakland with your hypocritical comment :nut :rofl even a journey man like bika made ward look like complete **** in his home town last night :deal froch has victories against pascal, taylor (in america), dirrell, and abrahams (in finland) and lost a hometown decision in COPENHAGEN in a fight of the year candidate :deal log off, you are a delusional clown
I hadn't even though about it, but on reflection his record is certainly good enough. Most P4P rankings have an American bias though so I doubt he actually will.
It really is not a given... Say that Abraham by some miracle finds a way to win the last two fights in the Super Six, then I would be hard pressed putting him in the top ten. And if he beats Johnson in the final, then Johnson would not be seen as a top 10-15 fighter.
Just remember a few weeks back, when there was a thread about people's own p4p rankings, and lots of people had Martinez and Williams in top 5. Some also had Pavlik in it. But that was before the Martinez-Williams fight of course.
Yup he has done enough for me. Some have Khan,Bradley, bute and doniare in their list. Froch has a better resume than all these IMO. Is he every1s cup of tea? No. Has he done enough to be a top 10 fighter. Yes. Like 1 poster said, if ward would have beaten AA, Pascal, Taylor and dirrell the Americans on here would be going crazy saying he is a top 5 fighter, let alone a top 10