Has Fury lost you as a fan?

You need a 4th option.

I was wavering as a fan when he tried to get out of Wilder 3, which nixed undisputed. Then more so during the Whyte negotiations. I'd had enough of him by the time he fought Chisora for a 3rd time.

So ducking Usyk didn't really lose me as a fan. The scales had already fallen from my eyes

 

Yes.

I won't watch him again unless it's against Joshua, Uysk or Joyce.

I won't watch Spence or Crawford unless they fight each other.

 

Tyson is just another part of a Heavyweight division that's appeal is waning, to your everyday fan like myself these top guys are talking too much , More fighting less talking is required .
Still a fan but he needs to either fight Usyk or retire .

 

Fury, Uysk and now even Joshua (announcing no fight until Dec) are just waiting for that Saudi money, its as simple as that

People look too deeply into this "ducking"

if you think any of these guys are actually afraid of fighting each other then you are nuts

Its simply a money (and often also a TV rights) thing

 

Yes, BUT, he can win me back.

I was a big fan, not a nut riding idiot, but I really enjoyed watching him box and enjoyed his antics too. This time though he's really over exposed hinself as a true *******. All the lies he's told makes you go back and look at things like his gloves not being on properly, peds, all the other ducks, etc, and you realize he really is a piece of crap.

However I still think he's one of the top heavyweights ever in H2H matches, and his bull**** doesn't detract from that, plus I think a lot of his trash talk and antics are purely to sell matches. Perhaps In this case likely to hype up the fight for big Saudi money in the winter (without Usyk's knowledge of this plan).

He can win me back if he fights Usyk this year and destroys him, without floppy gloves. I want to see all his usual trash talk and a stoppage before the 10th. I'd also like to see him stay around and fight one more top 5 not named Wilder.

 

I never liked him, but I considered him an era defining fighter whose comeback story and potential future accomplishment (as well as a clash with Usyk) could create a new golden years of heavyweight boxing.

 

The only thing he can do in the short term to redeem himself is fight Joyce.

 

My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why I
Got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window
And I can't see at all
And even if I could it'll all be gray
But your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that it's not so bad
It's not so bad
My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why I
Got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window (window)
And I can't see at all
And even if I could it'll all be gray
But your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that it's not so bad
It's not so bad

Dear Tyson, I wrote you but you still ain't callin'
I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not've got 'em
There probably was a problem at the post office or somethin'
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em
But anyways, what's been up, man? How's your daughters?
My girlfriend's pregnant too, I'm 'bout to be a father
If I have a daughter, guess what I'ma call her?
I'ma name her Fury
I read about your uncle Hughie too, I'm sorry
I had a friend kill himself over some broad who didn't want him
I know you probably hear this every day, but I'm your biggest fan
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures, man
Anyways, I hope you get this, man, hit me back
Just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is Stan
My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why I
Got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window (window)
And I can't see at all
And even if I could it'll all be gray
But your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that it's not so bad
It's not so bad
Dear Tyson, you still ain't called or wrote, I hope you have a chance
I ain't mad, I just think it's wrong you don't answer fans
If you didn't wanna talk to me outside your fights
You didn't have to, but you could've signed an autograph for Miniq
That's my little brother, man, he's only six years old
We waited in the blistering cold for you
For four hours and you just said, "No"
That's pretty crappy, man, you're like his idol
He wants to be just like you, man, he likes you more than I do
I ain't that mad though, I just don't like bein' lied to
Remember when we met in Manchester, you said if I'd write you you would write back
See, I'm just like you in a way
I never knew my father neither
He used to always cheat on my mom and beat her
I can relate to what you're saying in your songs
So when I have a crappy day, I drift away and put 'em on
'Cause I don't really got else, so that helps when I'm depressed
I even got a tattoo of your name across my face
Sometimes I even cut myself to see how much it bleeds
It's like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me
See, everything you say is real, and I respect you 'cause you tell it
My girlfriend's jealous 'cause I talk about you 24/7
But she don't know you like I know you Tyson, no one does
She don't know what it was like for people like us growin' up, you gotta call me, man
I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose
Sincerely yours, Stan
P.S. we should be together too
My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why I
Got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window (window)
And I can't see at all
And even if I could it'll all be gray
But your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that it's not so bad
It's not so bad
Dear Mr. I'm Too Good To Call Or Write My Fans
This will be the last package I ever send you
It's been six months and still no word, I don't deserve it?
I know you got my last two letters, I wrote the addresses on 'em perfect
So this is my cassette I'm sending you, I hope you hear it
I'm in the car right now, I'm doing ninety on the freeway
Hey Tyson, I drank a fifth of vodka
You dare me to drive?
You know the song by Phil Collins, "In the Air of the Night"
About that guy who could have saved that other guy from drowning
But didn't, then Phil saw it all, then at a a show he found him?
That's kinda how this is, you coulda rescued me from drowning
Now it's too late, I'm on a thousand downers now, I'm drowsy
And all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call
I hope you know I ripped all of your pictures off the wall
I love you Tyson, we coulda been together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can't sleep and you scream about it
I hope your conscience eats at you and you can't breathe without me
See Tyson, shut up, I'm tryna talk
Hey Tyson, that's my girlfriend screamin' in the trunk
But I didn't slit her throat, I just tied her up, see I ain't like you
'Cause if she suffocates, she'll suffer more, and then she'll die too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now
Oh ****, I forgot, how am I supposed to send this out?
My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why I
Got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window (window)
And I can't see at all
And even if I could it'll all be gray
But your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that it's not so bad
It's not so bad
Dear Stan, I meant to write you sooner but I just been busy
You said your girlfriend's pregnant now, how far along is she?
Look, I'm really flattered you would call your daughter that
And here's an autograph for your brother
I wrote it on a Starter cap
I'm sorry I didn't see you at the fight, I must've missed you
Don't think I did that intentionally just to diss you
But what's this you said about you like to cut your wrists too?
I say that just clownin', dawg, come on, how messed up is you?
You got some issues, Stan, I think you need some counselling
To help your ass from bouncing off the walls when you get down some
And what's this about us meant to be together?
That type of crap make me not want us to meet each other
I really think you and your girlfriend need each other
Or maybe you just need to treat her better
I hope you get to read this letter, I just hope it reaches you in time
Before you hurt yourself, I think that you'll be doin' just fine
If you relax a little, I'm glad I inspire you but Stan
Why are you so mad? Try to understand, that I do want you as a fan
I just don't want you to do some crazy
I seen this one on the news a couple weeks ago that made me sick
Some dude was drunk and drove his car over a bridge
And had his girlfriend in the trunk, and she was pregnant with his kid
And in the car they found a tape, but they didn't say who it was to
Come to think about, his name was, it was you
Damn!

 

No

I’m not so fickle.

 

No, i still enjoy watching his titties jiggle around as he dances around the ring.

 

The unwillingness to honor his contract with Klitschko and backing out of the rematch twice was not impressive. The positive testing for PEDs, ballooning up in weight, and the boasting about cocaine use turned me away from being a fan of Fury.

But I was impressed with Fury after his two knockout wins over Wilder. The third fight was one of the best heavyweight fights I've seen in years, even though Fury wasn't in his best physical condition.

However, the retiring and coming off retirement several times was childish. His lying about wanting to fight Joshua in December and then fighting Chisora again was very bad. Then he pretended to be interested in fighting Usyk, and wasted months of the great but aging boxer's time by repeatedly changing his demands.

 

I think he had a chance to redeem himself after the fallout by getting the fight back on with fairer terms.
But assuming he doesn't, he deserves all the hate he gets now.
I blame him absolutely for the negotiations failing.

So I'll offer my own little interpretation in case it helps anyone attack him online and on social media. This is all assuming the negotiation issues and conflict were legit, btw, and that they're not going to surprise us with an announcement or happily reschedule with Arab money.

Should have given 50/50 off the bat as that's what he wanted against Haye and especially Joshua during the comeback, and Usyk had more belts than him at those times.

60/40 with a flip for the winner might be acceptable perhaps but the 70/30 was absolutely disrespectful and wanting 50/50 even if he lost at 70/30 was even worse.

It meant Fury could have lost TWICE and come away with 70 and 50 of the pot.
Even the 70/30 then 70/30 for the winner next time meant Usyk could win twice and only break even while Fury could win twice and get 70 and 70.

Basically the way it was set up, Usyk could never get more than half from both fights even if he won twice, where as Fury would at best break even if he lost twice.

So that's all massive disrespect to Usyk. And the fact Fury wouldn't accept the 70/30 with 70 for the winner in the rematch pretty much proves he's nowhere near as confident as he claims in regards to winning the fights, because if he really believed that, he'd get 70 and 70 with that deal.

The other issue is that Fury is also to blame for Usyk and his manager giving up on it because of the way he taunted the manager after they accepted 70/30. It was a scum move to do that anyway, but what it meant was that the manager was more likely to have them stand their ground after that as he was taunted for giving in already. So it helped sabotage it.

However, I don't actually think Fury is scared of Usyk or ducking him per say, I think his greed and ego have just taken over now. He seems utterly corrupt after the money and fame he got from the ESPN deal / Wilder fights. He sold whatever soul and honour he had. If Usyk agreed to 70/30 50/50 I do believe Fury would have fought him and taken all the money. He just wasn't going to risk it for fairer terms.

 

Never was sucked in by LP
Can we see the original birth certificate
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