Has Jermain Taylor Been Tested as Pavlik Was Tested Against Miranda?

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  1. Boinko

    Boinko Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You could be right. We'll see.
     
  2. Boinko

    Boinko Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry, you've said this before and I don't buy it. Nowhere in the rule book does it require a judge to honour this tradition and give the benefit of the doubt to the champ.
    And many fans, like myself, think this is a bad, bad idea and would only compound problems in scoring.

    Basically, you're complaining about unfair scoring, yet you're coming out and advocating it as long as it benefits the champ.
    That is utter nonsense.

    If the final round of a championship fight was clearly won by the challenger yet the judge gave it to the champ simply because the fight was close, would you have a problem with this? Because, this so called tradition could be interpreted in many different ways.

    Actually, I have a better idea, how about judges score bouts fairly without regard for who is the champ and who is the challenger.

    As I see it, this whole thing about boxing tradition demanding that the champ get the nod in a close fight, is nothing more than a way for fans of the champ to whine and ***** when a decision doesn't go their way.

    I'll ask again, which rounds in the first Hopkins fight which we're scored by Lederman for Taylor, should have without a doubt went to Bernard?

    But, by your logic because Taylor was now the champ, he rightfully deserved the decision since the fight was close.
    Ah, but let me guess, you don't think Taylor should have been given that benefit since the first fight was controversial and he didn't have the history as champion that Bernard had.
    So, yet again, the rule gets interpreted differently due to special circumstances. Hmmm, it's sure hard to define this rule in any meaningful way.

    Let me ask, should state athletic commisions consult with you before each fight to determine how this tradition should be implented? (since it doesn't actually appear in the rulebook).

    I'm not saying it isn't possible that networks have influence over fights. But you've done nothing in the way of providing evidence to prove it. Repeating a claim over and over just based on a hunch doesn't make it so.
    Sorry.

    As for the fight itself, only time will tell
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Good post!:good
     
  4. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The more important question is has Pavlik been tested with a guy that is as multi dimensional as Taylor? Thats way more important than fighting a guy with good power, but is one dimensional. Pavlik shows he has a good chin, but he hasnt shown me he can be competitive with a guy that can do a few extra things like Taylor can. We will soon find that out.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pavlik does not have experience with someone as complete as Taylor? He's miles beyond anyone Pavlik's faced.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Good post, you beat me to it.:good
     
  7. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Pavlik dominated Miranda in the sense that he won most rounds and got he KO, but he took a walloping at times to do it.

    You can dominate your man in boxing and also catch some serious shots along the way.

    And Marnoff.. I did not clame Pavlik has fought better fighters, only that he has been in a serious scrap recently in which he had to take serious shots. Thats all.
     
  8. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I dont think of Taylor as a multi-dimensional fighter in any sense. I see him as an athletic, super talented, strong fighter with basicaly a 1-2 and a clinch at this point. I actualy thought he had more dimensions to his game when he was younger and coming up.

    He does more in the sense of variety than Miranda, but come on we are not talking about PBF or SRR here.
     
  9. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Hate to say it, but I told you so. :hi:

    In Larry Merchants words, one man got off the canvas and one did not.:deal