Has Joke Calslappy's opponents been nobodies? Or does he just make them look like ..

Look. :-(

The past it Eubank Calzaghe beat probably beats Pavlik.

I like Pavlik, but he ain't KO'ing any version of Chris, and that is the only how he would beat him.

Eubank beat benn and Watson in his prime. Those fighters are better than anyone Pavlik has ever beaten including the overrated Taylor.

People forget how bad Taylor looked in his bouts with Ouma and Spinks who were blown-up Welterweights. He never even hurt them guys. :yikes

He looked better against Wright, but nothing special.

A shot Eubank went up to Cruiserweight and fought a puncher twice and never went down, he even dropped a Cruiserweight twice.

Eubank is better than Taylor, and would maybe even beat Hopkins (1993-1995) at least. A 1993-1995 version of Hopkins is better than the 2008 version which Pavlik is fighting.

Who knows, Pavlik might lose to an old B-Hop. Then what would you lot be saying about Calzaghe then?

Don't diss Chris. :bart

 

I very much doubt it.

That you are the only one that is.

I think Pavlik should win but he really hasnt been asked the questions that Hopkins will ask him yet. How and if he deals with hopkins remains to be seen.

 

I can see KP beating BH far more convincingly than JC did. I am not completly writing BH off but I cannot see how he can keep KP off him for 12 rounds?

 

You can say Miranda loses all his important fights. You could also point out that his only losses were to Pavlik and Abraham. But, no matter how ya slice it, he has to make some major improvements, or two years from now he'll be lucky to get on Friday Night Fights.

 

For example everytime there is a Calzaghe-Pavlik discussion - you never take the stance from Calzaghes POV, and that can never be objective, Lance. However, I have seen this on numerous occations where you only look at one side of the coin. Concerning PBF-DLH, concerning PBF-Margarito. I am not saying that I disagreed with you on those last two, but I am biased towards Margarito, and against PBF - just like you. If you can't be honest about the things you do, then okay.

It was merely reminders to you, in case you have forgotten how biased you have been towards Margarito and against PBF.

Why would you have this belief, if you weren't biased towards Margo, and not towards PBF. It's not a neutral evaluation, Lance. You don't know if PBF actually thought this(that Margo wasn't well known enough).

Seemingly it is, if you were neutral you would at least try and understand the reasons why LHW Calzaghe are more interested in money fights at this point in his career. You don't. You don't make arguements against why a LHW in Calzaghe should fight a MW'er. You look at things from one side only, and that is bias.

You haven't attacked me? What do you call it then?

Yes, I like Amsterdam, but I have also always had a weak spot for you, even if we often disagree on things. And I think I have always approached you tactfully. Except in my last post.

If you weren't hateful towards Amsterdam, why would you namecall him. I don't know about you, but I have seen in-depth analysis on boxers from Amsterdam, where he defended his views. I have also seen rediculous posts from him, but who hasn't made those?

Furthermore, you call me a hypocrite, because I act condescending towards an obvious troll, and then you yourself result say, "are you aware of how stupid you sound". See the irony?

 

JC has beat prospects,and only one guy with a solid legendary career,(BHop)which is old enough to be mosts grandparent.

 

You haven't seen anything yet, check this out. :rofl :rofl :rofl

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Considering how long Calzaghe was in the division wasn't he supposed to be the unified champion?, what happened to grabbing other titles or targeting other champions?, he wanted them to come to Wales, right?

As I said and will always say, you know there is an issue when someone like Lacy who is NEW in the division straight off the Olympics captures the IBF title and the #1 spot in the division when Joe was already there. Same with Kessler who was on his way to UNIFY as Calzaghe was there in his own delusional world thinking he's the best with the WBO title, if it wasn't for both guys showing SERIOUS interest in fighting Calzaghe was he going to be rated this high today?, THEY'RE the ones who were also CHAMPIONS moving over there to them to MAKE the fights happen or else they weren't going to happen as MANY before them. Please note that Lacy moved from America with his #1 position in the division to fight him.

Why is Joe moving to America for guys like Hopkins and Roy Jones now?, because they're BEYOND shot.

 

I have seen his fights and know he's skilled. But why didn't he prove it in his prime against others in their primes?, why is he moving to fight them now?, didn't he claim he's the "champion" in his own delusional mind and they need to come to Wales for him back then?, why did he change his mind?, because all these fighters are BEYOND shot right now, that's why.

 

combined age, 82

combined losses, 9

 

chris eubank's win and draw against nigel benn alone shits all over kelly pavliks career.

 

I hope you are awre of just WHAT we are discussing the last couple days. I was here saying Joe C was outright mesleading people. You defneded that.

I came here pointing out your hypocrisy in expecting someone to post in detail when you said you didn;t need to. that is the jist of it. And yet here we are for some reason.

Having dislikes or likes for certain fighters does NOT automaticaly make you biased. Being biased is how you SPIN certain truths.

Just because I would argue with Mayweather fanboys mainlyon WHAT THEY CLAIM does not mean I hated or even was biased against Mayweather. I disputed what they claimed or the liberties they took. LIke I said, I am a straight talker. I don't beat aruiond the bush.

I never said I DON'T understand why he's taking money fights. Where are you even getting that from? Its statements like that make me wonder if you even READ what you are replying to.

Pointing out you being a hypocrite in:

1. Expecting someone to give an explanantiomn then refusing yourself.
2. Claiming their acting unlike an adult is reason enough to ignore them when you show similiar, albeit different, immature tendancies.

I do appreciate that. While I will likely be on the other side of the fence then you, I do feel pretty much the same. Except about Amsterdam. Anyone who comes off like an arrognat know it all, then refuses to not only back up claims, but then to act like a total jerk to others. Can't take the high road while still going low.

One has to care about somethint to hate it. I enjoyed pointing out his inconsistensies and belittling someone who thinks they're above everyone else. Call it checks and balances if you will.

Besides, You would not believe how many time Amsterdam PM'd me threatening to EXPOSE and ruin me forever. Every time I told him to do what he has to do. He never did ****. All talk.

It would only be ironic if I originally was making statements like "I won't talk to you because you aren't actinglike an adult."

I didn't, so no irony.

Look...I don't know where this is heading. I made my points.

If you want people to post in detail an explantion, don't say you don't need to that for your own posts.

 

I don't know the details. Some say freight of flying. Others that Warren is a ****, yet others against say those offers to Hopkins and Taylor has been put forth. I don't know the truth.

I think, that it is a bit of all. I think Calzaghe was too comfortable with fighting on hometurf, enjoying his many spectators, and good money for him. Maybe I also think he has doubted himself a bit. I believe that it was Enzo that convinced him that he could beat Lacy, because he didn't seem sure.

I also think that Hopkins and Taylor really thought he was too much risk vs reward. They could fight domestic fighters that were more well known to the US public. Not many knew Calzaghe outside Europe, and he never wanted to have more than WBO.

Right now he just wants to have good paychecks and it is no longer about proving himself as the best in 168(or 175).

This is all speculation only on my part, because I don't know the reasons why, and I am dumbfounded, because I think he would be competitive in those matches - at least.

 

Why do people keep saying Joe c just wants a good paycheck? Hasn't he been gatting paid very well for his career? Isn't that why many justified him not leavng Wales? It's not like he was fighting for peanuts and is just NOW getting paid what he wants. That would be more Margarito's situation. Or baldomir's before Gastti. Joe's been making good money for a decade. He's not cashing out, he's just doing what he's been doing for alsmot his entire career. Big money/lowest risk.

 

Oui j'ai vu le combat, il a pas vrm eu chaud, son jeux de pied était mauvais dans ce temps la et c'es pr sa qu'il sest fait dropper..et sa défensive était + poreuse..
Mundine et Andrade sont 2 bonne victoires, je l'accorde
mais Taylor et bientot Hopkins(meme a 44 ans) sont mieux que Andrade et Mundine(qui est overrated comme jamais sur ce site)..
Bute va déculoter Andrade pour quon voit que c'est qu'un boxeur limité avec une machoire de fer et une bonne force physique..